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| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by cowgurl: 10:01am On Jun 14, 2012 |
sauer: Twas about time you got here! Please indulge me, Have you met a female atheist? How did they fare in regards with their counterparts? |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by cowgurl: 10:10am On Jun 14, 2012 |
manmustwac: As an athiest I don't have a problem marrying a Christian or any women of any religion. The problem is usually is that the Christian cannot marry someone who dose not have the same belief system that they were born and bred into. A Christian marrying another Christian is no guarantee of a blissful marriage. Some women do end up marrying wife beaters, hot tempered men, stingy men cheaters etc. And if their relationship or marriage eventually breaks up has it got anything to do with Christianity? So dose marrying a Christian make any difference. I agree with you Sir on the emboldened! But some women also do not end up marrying arseholes and am one of them. And to me, YES! marrying a christian (who's gat all the qualities I seek) sure makes a difference. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Mynd44: 10:10am On Jun 14, 2012 |
manmustwac: As an athiest I don't have a problem marrying a Christian or any women of any religion. The problem is usually is that the Christian cannot marry someone who dose not have the same belief system that they were born and bred into. A Christian marrying another Christian is no guarantee of a blissful marriage. Some women do end up marrying wife beaters, hot tempered men, stingy men cheaters etc. And if their relationship or marriage eventually breaks up has it got anything to do with Christianity? So dose marrying a Christian make any difference.I know this question was not directed at me but if it was me, I don't mind. I can marry a Muslim and have her train my kids in Islam. Why should that pose a problem? If the kids wanna follow their mother fine its their business. My parents did not force a religion on me so and I turned out okay so why should I force my kids into anything? |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by LogicMind: 12:50pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
cowgurl: Yes I would. Infact I married one and opened her eyes to the evils of her religion. Even though she has not yet graduated to blaspheming as a real atheist, she has not stepped into a church for a very long time now. Please I don't have a grudge but you were coming at it aggresively. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 2:24pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
manmustwac: As an athiest I don't have a problem marrying a Christian or any women of any religion. The problem is usually is that the Christian cannot marry someone who dose not have the same belief system that they were born and bred into. A Christian marrying another Christian is no guarantee of a blissful marriage. Some women do end up marrying wife beaters, hot tempered men, stingy men cheaters etc. And if their relationship or marriage eventually breaks up has it got anything to do with Christianity? So dose marrying a Christian make any difference.I agree with this! |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 2:35pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
cowgurl:Yes, I have met female atheists. I am particularly struck by their sane reasoning, their desire to know, their openness and above all, their impressive world view. Many women atheists I have met can carry on fantastic conversations on philosophy, music, psychology or other highly specialised fields like anthropology. To find such women is rather rare, but in the end very pleasing. Quite a number of "very religious" Nigerian girls (and unfortunately guys) are often too contented with church, Nollywood, cinemas or pommes frites to give a hoot about the world. I do sense that it's the female atheists who long to change their environment, to preach understanding to their neighbours in the light of these difficulties we face globally. For me, there is nothing more impressive that a woman who is confident, independent and absolutely sure she's as good as any man. A lot of women claim this, but we all know it's a ruse. But then, many female atheists I know or have met are very much like this; this contrasts sharply with the behaviour of their servile, christianly counterparts. 1 Like |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 2:39pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
Mynd_44:Apparently you are missing the fact that your wife appears to be "forcing your kids" into Islam. A better alternative would be for them to decide what's appropriate after achieving a level of independent reasoning. Kids who join their parents' religious practices in their very early years might as well be forced into doing what they'd never have opted for! |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by emofine2(f): 3:12pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
foyeks2001: my bible tells me that '' do not be equally yoked with unbelievers'' meaning d suppose partner can as well influences ur faith in God be it positively or negatively....but always good to be on a safer side....so it is a capital NO for me Is this commandment exclusive to marriage? What about buisness partners etc... |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 3:14pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
^^^^Are you an atheist? |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by emofine2(f): 3:29pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
shymmex: ^^^^Are you an atheist? Well I am only an “atheist” as far as the known and presented god(s) are concerned and it’s not so much because I do not believe they exist (at least metaphorically) it’s because I have no faith in them or inclination towards them. Beyond the perimeter of religion I am not an atheist; I am irreligious. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 3:37pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
emöfine2: Hmmm, I like the 'irreligious' bit. What do you think about spirituality? |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by cowgurl: 3:40pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
Logic Mind: The emboldened was all I needed to know. My apologies for thinking you won't cos I thought so due to our previous encounter. Please I don't have a grudge but you were coming at it aggresively. Glad you don't, so let's go ahead and enjoy this thread cos I am. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 3:46pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
I don't believe in opening people's eye to the evil of anything. Religion or the lack of it is a very personal thing. The same way you don't go around questioning people about their sexuality, is the same way we should respect the religious choice of one another. The desire to uniform people to ourselves is what is generating so much hatred and rivalry in the world today. Should we learn to exploit our differences instead of using them as an excuse to fight each other, this world would be a better place to live. Differences are not always a minus so much that people can love themselves because of their differences like they can love themselves because of their similarities. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by cowgurl: 4:09pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
[quote author=sauer] Yes, I have met female atheists. I am particularly struck by their sane reasoning, their desire to know, their openness and above all, their impressive world view. Many women atheists I have met can carry on fantastic conversations on philosophy, music, psychology or other highly specialised fields like anthropology. To find such women is rather rare, but in the end very pleasing. Quite a number of "very religious" Nigerian girls (and unfortunately guys) are often too contented with church, Nollywood, cinemas or pommes frites to give a hoot about the world. I do sense that it's the female atheists who long to change their environment, to preach understanding to their neighbours in the light of these difficulties we face globally. For me, there is nothing more impressive that a woman who is confident, independent and absolutely sure she's as good as any man. A lot of women claim this, but we all know it's a ruse. But then, many female atheists I know or have met are very much like this; this contrasts sharply with the behaviour of their servile, christianly counterparts.[/quote] Hmm, never met one, glad their reports are positive and quite captivating, am so taken. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Bisjosh(f): 4:19pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
YES!!!!!!  |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by emofine2(f): 4:40pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
shymmex: I regard spirituality as a self assessment. I find it to be mature, deep and expressive but more importantly self-governing. What do you think of spirituality? michelin89: I don't believe in opening people's eye to the evil of anything. Religion or the lack of it is a very personal thing. The same way you don't go around questioning people about their sexuality, is the same way we should respect the religious choice of one another. I understand what you are communicating but I believe one can and should open “people’s eyes to the evils of anything” be it in religion or otherwise because it affects even those in the opposing party and sometimes even much more than the adherents themselves...this is how reevaluation and reformation may occur. However like you I disagree with biasedly projecting one’s own viewpoint as somehow the more valid approach. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 5:28pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
emöfine2: I think it's a natural way of connecting to the maker directly, without having to go through anyone - since we're naturally spiritual beings.. It allows more freedom, and enables people radiate their internal humanistic gifts such as: love, compassion, patience, tolerance, forgiveness, contentment, responsibility, harmony, and a concern for others - without having to follow any written blueprint.... |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by emofine2(f): 6:02pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
shymmex: Hmm...I've always likened the difference between spirtuality and religion to the self taught learner and the formally educated student. Aside from relating to a divine authority what you have described is in parrallel to humanism. However I find the spectrum of all beleifs and thoughts to be rather intriguing. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 6:38pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
emöfine2: That's more reason why a self taught learner adapts faster to the realities of life - than someone who's formally educated.. Formal education doesn't necessarily develop the intellect to cope with the harsh realities of life, it's indoctrination (just as religion is) to enable people meet the status quo, and follow the 'fundamentals' of the world - as prescribed by the miniscule few, who literally "own" the world. But this is a topic for another day... Spirituality and humanism may be parallel - but anyone who believes there's no divine authority, is either dishonest, or just ignorant (but who am I to judge people?)... I basically believe that 'thing' which makes us connect naturally, spiritually, and metaphysically - with the atmosphere, other living things, and our surrounding is the divine authority.. There are so many things that happens in our lives, surroundings, and in the atmosphere everyday - that can't be explained physically, and scientifically... That particular 'thing' which enables these mysterious things to happen - is the supreme being, and divine authority to me.. Even Jesus talked about God and his kingdom in Luke 17:19-21: Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst.” But most religious leaders will never reference this in their churches, and synagogues.. That 'thing' which lives in our midst, that manifests itself mysteriously everyday but that can't be explained - is the supreme being, and the divine authority. If you can study the IFA PHILOSOPHY (not the other voodoo crap), you will get a better understanding of what the diving authority really is - and how you can relate to it directly. 1 Like |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Goldieluks: 6:51pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
shymmex: Do you believe in the existence of God? You keep referring to 'that thing' does the 'thing' have a name? |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 6:57pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
Goldieluks: Obviously, I believe in God.. That's all over my post... That 'thing' which works mysteriously is God... I BELIEVE IN GOD - AND SHE LIVES INSIDE OF ME!  1 Like |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Goldieluks: 7:01pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
shymmex: Cleared....  |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by emofine2(f): 7:15pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
shymmex: Agreed. And that’s why I respect spirituality more just as I respect a self-learner more. Spirituality and humanism may be parallel - but anyone who believes there's no divine authority, is either dishonest, or just ignorant (but who am I to judge people?)... I basically believe that 'thing' which makes us connect naturally, spiritually, and metaphysically - with the atmosphere, other living things, and our surrounding is the divine authority.. There are so many things that happens in our lives, surroundings, and in the atmosphere everyday - that can't be explained physically, and scientifically... That particular 'thing' which enables these mysterious things to happen - is the supreme being, and divine authority to me.. Barring the first sentence I don’t entirely disagree but what one may term as a divine authority may differ in title or even function to another. If you can study the IFA PHILOSOPHY (not the other voodoo crap), you will get a better understanding of what the diving authority really is - and how you can relate to it directly. I never betrayed that I had no understanding. When I made that comment about humanism subtracting a divine authority I wasn’t speaking from a personal standpoint in relation to my own beleifs. There is a misconception that continues to damage the reputation of most traditional religion on the continent. Voodoo is a traditional religion so I don’t esteem it any less than Christianity and I have and continue to loosely study Ifa. shymmex: I BELIEVE IN GOD - AND HE LIVES INSIDE IN ME! "He"? I thought you believed "God" was a woman  @OP Apologies for derailing  |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 7:22pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
fluid26:i'll ignore what u wrote here because i don't want this convo to go on. Logic Mind: Hehehe.even if i explain it, i'm afraid you would still need an intelligent man to understand it.for an atheist, u are pretty shallow; and then you condemn religion for being sexist. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by LogicMind: 7:25pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
see them. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by LogicMind: 7:27pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
Shollypopz: i try to be very honest and have fun. try it. you might like it. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 7:43pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
emöfine2: When I said "voodoo" - I meant the sacrifices involved in some African spirituality.. IFA philosophy doesn't deal with sacrifices, and rituals - it's just higher learning about creation, and how to connect to the supreme being directly - it's similar to metaphysics and religion (without the allegories, remixes, and the boogeymen involved in religion). It's a direct connection... I'm still learning about it, and hopefully, I will be able to learn more when I visit ile-ife sometime next year. "He"? I thought you believed "God" was a woman That was a typo. I believe God definitely has to be a woman (or feminine) because the first creation definitely has to be a woman - and since we were created in his image. The Adam and Eve story is bogus! - humanity didn't start 6,000years ago, we've been here for hundreds of thousands of years... The bible was probably 'remixed' to reflect when the first 'European' left the cave (no disrespect) after the ice age - but Africans (black people on the African continent) existed way before the date in the bible. Even biology 101 shows that XY sex chromosomes (male) can only come from the XX sex chromosomes (female) - and not the other way round.. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 7:43pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
Logic Mind:*rolls eyes* U are just a subtle chauvinist deluded by his own opionions; The fact that i don't think the way you expect me to, doesn't mean i'm dishonest. Leave your cage Mr! Pardon me for not seeing your bigotry as fun. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 8:11pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
Goldieluks: Why should God be a man? I thought he was pure soul, thus a spirit. Why tag him as a HE? |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 8:16pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
michelin89: It was a typo, read the comment I posted to emofine2.. God created 'us' in his image, according to the Bible (I believe you're a christian) - and if that's to be believed, then God has to be feminine.. Since men can only come from women - not the other way round.. I use 'She' or 'It' for God - not 'He' - just like we do for countries, and continents. |
| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by RealBitch(f): 8:58pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
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| Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by queensmith: 9:02pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
michelin89: Thats a very very good question, was talking about this yesterday. In one of Karl Marx's books (or the other dude i forget) he talks about how in Africa god was was an overweight woman. When the europeans travelled through africa and noticed this they felt insulted and before you know it god now looks like a french whitehaired man. It's weird. I remember thinking that casting morgan freeman as 'god' in the movie bruce almighty was weird, and it's obvious to me now that that was the whole point. Why is god envisioned as a european white man instead of a black woman? Since the middle class white man is at the top of the social hierarchical scale it's very possible that the whole idea of god is just an imaginative form of our real lives. An exaggeration of current realities. The book was pretty interesting! |
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