shymmex:

How does atheism have elements of spirituality?

I'm lost - can you explain further?

shymmex: I was born a christian, but still technically a christian because of my parents - and still technically a muslim due of my family background..

But these two religions have to be the most sexist religions in the world..

Why God the father, the son, and the holy spirit? What about the woman?

Atleast Egyptians had ISIS!!

shymmex:

Atheism was derived from the Egyptian Osiris/Isis/Horus star cosmology, just as the story of Jesus Christ.. The only thing is that the Atheists don't believe in God but the universe - and Christians believe in Jesus, and the three in one (God of the father, son, and the holy spirit).

michelin89:
I'm telling you that spirituality is at the basis of whatever religious belief. Be it monotheism or polytheism as it used to be in Africa before the white man arrived, it's just as being spiritual, where there is a god or gods who has control over all natural elements and we sort of connect our spiritual side with these elements to experience a communion with this supernatural force.

I don't even understand why you keep distinguishing spirituality from religion like they didn't have anything in common, when one is just a specific sphere of the other. Spirituality is the very foundation of any religion.

Back to the issue of Atheism being the creation of the white man, this is totally false. Atheism is not just a refusal of religion, it's the refusal of whatever belief that there is some sort of spiritualism or extraordinary or extrahuman force supposedly in control of our lives. Hadn't the white man come to Africa and taught his ways, Africa may today still be practising her traditional religions or deism, but there would still be those people who wouldn't take part in this worship and they would be atheists, called maybe in a different manner.

Area_boy: @ Shymmex

You see the problem is, your religionist mind cant understand how possible it is for one to be void of religion so you brand us with some form of religion.

I guess that is your ill attempt at a conspiracy theory!!

fail

michelin89:
If you don't like red, then you must like blue. Ever thought someone might not just give a damn about colours? Must everybody have a different version of anything you have? Why do you think yours is a universal idea, everybody must conform too in different models (just to cite Plato)?

shymmex: Please my dear atheists - do you believe/celebrate the following?

- Do you believe in the big b.ang theory, and star cosmology?
- Do you celebrate birthdays, weddings, etc..?

Please answer my questions!

shymmex: Atheism to me is just like a cult, just as scientology is - but 'cult' is subjective depending on how you look at it.

Area_boy:

what has the celebration of a significant moment in a persons life got to do with their belief or religion?? I dont see the premise of your argument here or the point you are trying to raise .

Secondly we dont "believe in" the big b@ng(fcking filter I hate this forum) theory, Learn to move your mind away from the term "believe in". it is by far the most reasonable answer to where the universe came from and it beats every thing your bible says. God created everything and put two people on it to breed and populate it. Which of the two sounds more atrocious??

cowgurl:

I agree with you Sir on the emboldened! But some women also do not end up marrying arseholes and am one of them.

And to me, YES! marrying a christian (who's gat all the qualities I seek) sure makes a difference.

manmustwac: Cowgirl every relationship is different just because yours happen to be like a bed of roses coz you just happened to be with a cowboy that has the qualities that you need dose not necessarily mean that only Christians enjoy good relationships. Muslims marry Muslims they have good relationships Hindus marry Hindus they have good relationships. Muslims marry Christians they have good relationships. Athiests marry Christians they have good relationships. So good relationships are not necessarily based on whether your partner is Christian or not because its not only you guys who enjoy good relationships.

shymmex:

Atheists are fascinating people - but they have to accept that their 'belief system' is a form of religion on steroids.

Shollypopz:
*rolls eyes* U are just a subtle chauvinist deluded by his own opionions; The fact that i don't think the way you expect me to, doesn't mean i'm dishonest. Leave your cage Mr!
Pardon me for not seeing your bigotry as fun.

shymmex:

Atheism was derived from the Egyptian Osiris/Isis/Horus star cosmology, just as the story of Jesus Christ.. The only thing is that the Atheists don't believe in God but the universe - and Christians believe in Jesus, and the three in one (God of the father, son, and the holy spirit).



You're a funny, chap!!

Where did the story of Jesus come from? And how come almost everything in both the Qu'ran and Bible are in hieroglyphics on the pyramids in Egypt?

shymmex:

You don't believe in the big b.ang, yet every atheist I know tell me about big ba.ng and darwinism as the alternative to God.

Why can't atheist just lead normal lives - and not believe in any damn thing, or just say nothing, huh?

And celebrating birthdays show you actually believe in creation (either by big ban.g or God) - which is technically a ritual, to thank whatever you believe in out of the two, that you're alive and healthy.. That's common logic..

queensmith:

[b]god! (or whatever you believe in lol) bless you!
[/b]Thats what i've always said, growing up i've wanted to do many things, and the parents will just dismiss it sayin 'no its not good' 'erm why is it not good' 'dont ask me questions' and thats typically the way things are especially back home. Nobody is asking any questions, women don't raise their eyebrows when they are told to 'submit' they just do! People are told they must behave a certain way, nobody says 'what for' they just do! and these people have no have no sense of self. It's very very obvious here on this website, the herd mentality is too much. Nobody seems to want to apply logic to anything (especially if it's to do with religion or tradition) and questioning their beleifs is like you've killed their families!

Even if you are religous you still need to ask questions, you need to consult the bible for yourself and try to understand what the pov of the writer is, whether it applies, whether it's personal. Lets not forget it was human beings like ourselves that wrote the Bible. None of them were perfect.

o and i'm not sure- it was a UCL professors note on Karl Marx's writings, i'll dig the book up somewhere. But I think it's based mostly on the communist manifesto. It also had some of the things he wrote when he was a teen. The book was brilliant, his name is jonathan something i'll find him.

shymmex: Back to the topic!

Basically, I won't mind marrying an atheist - I find them to be highly intelligent, open-minded, and interesting.. Just as I find most westernized black people (black diaspora, and highly educated Nigerians like Wole Soyinka) who practice African spirituality to be highly intelligent, brilliant, open-minded, and intriguing. Unlike people of Abrahamic faiths, who just have a linear thought process - and anything that doesn't conform to that, is believed to be of the 'devil'. Devil itself is subjective - just as I believe 'hell' don't exist (but that's a subject for another day).

Atheists are fascinating people - but they have to accept that their 'belief system' is a form of religion on steroids.

Goldieluks:




That is where you go wrong dear. People think that intelligence attained from
vast knowledge of studying human theories, makes them a complete being.
But that is not always the case,because the type of intelligence we humans should be aiming
at, is that of understanding and knowing the Bible at our finger tips, because on the
day of judgement God will not be interested in your worldy knowledge, by asking (my son/daughter
how many chapters of karl max's/sigmund freud/mark johnson's book did you study.

Focus would be on how you understood the Bible and applied it to your everyday life.