@Gbade

Were you talking about Mr. Pataki or me

Who else would i give the title of the unRevered Revving Rev?

You of course!!!

so, are you planning on getting married as well?

Don't forget to apply your lipstick on the wedding day. . .

mrpataki:


Where do you place the sulking child Gbade? Common he has to get a place as well. That should tell him to grow up real quick!

gbade. x:

The Revving Rev?! He'll probably the Drag Queen of the Day.

Or better still, do what he does best: sulk all day and talk sh*t.

Dont understand you attacking me. Maybe Mr. Pataki should be the attention of your unprovoked attacks

kai kai Gbade,
You funny oh!


Funny enough i kinda feel for the Revving REV!

Pity he has to sulk all day long in the wedding process!
Wonder what he do be wearing a wedding dress or a 3P suit??

Have a great day man!

@MrPataki

Don't feel for me as I am not upset at all or even pissed. Just confused by his answer

Maybe he was attacking you through me Maybe he is too scared to attack your directly

Actually I would wear a diving Suit with flippers, mask and a snorkel to the wedding

@ Rev,
Feel for you
The perfect costume/mask to fit your sulking attitude, guess most peeps wont know when you are really crying and sulking. They would most perfectly think you just came out from the pools!

Everybody cries at weddings. Some because it is nice. The bridegroom because he is losing his freedom

Rof-lmao! Trust the Revving Rev to say some!

u know Rev, me and mrpataki went through the pains of picking ur betrothed. She's actually the old woman selling kuli kuli and akara at my backyard.

That old woman's kuli kuli kicks ass.

And Rev, when u getting married, don't forget to send invitations to moi and mrpataki.

Rof-lmao! Trust the Revving Rev to say some!

u know Rev, me and mrpataki went through the pains of picking ur betrothed. She's actually the old woman selling kuli kuli and akara at my backyard.

That old woman's kuli kuli kicks ass.

And Rev, when u getting married, don't forget to send invitations to moi and mrpataki.

@Gbade.x

Of course you will be invited to my next wedding I already have picked out the bridesmaid dresses for you both

You and Pataki are going to look so nice in pink silk dresses and flowered hats

I will send you my gift wish list to give you and Pataki time to go shopping

ps. No Bread Toasters please

You guys are derailing my topic with your deliberate policy of side tracking on serious issues. Tell us what makes you believe that Jesus the wonderful son of Mary is your own God. Tell us about the fate of those generation that passed away before the "Gods" mother became pregnat and finally delivered him. There were born and taken away before the arrival of the Lord himself. Funny, huh?

@Belloti

Everybody has given their opinion on this question several times already. The last few messages were off-topic I am sorry.

OK Back to the topic.

If Christianity is wrong then Islam is also wrong! I personally do not subscribe to the fairy story nonsense of any one of them, but if you compare the basic rules you will see that it is the same mumbo jumbo under different names:

Both say that there is One God.

And that God is sovereign, he rules history.

The existence of Angels is another similarity.

Islam and Christianity both have Prophets and prophecy (Including many of the same characters Adam, Noah, Abraham, David, Jesus).

Both believe in a Heaven and Hell and God's future judgment.

The question should really be 'How is religion destroying the World in which we live?'

If I had to make a choice then I would have to be a Christian!

Islam is far more repressive, evil, manipulating and full of contradictions than Christianity could ever be. At least the Jesus character is portrayed as a kind and understanding gentle figure. Mohamed was nothing but an womanizing, alcoholic pedophile

@ Revving Rev:

pink dresses? Obviously you sense of dress as a Drag Queen has surely gone nuts (ur lunacy is another matter for another discussion ).

Don't worry me and mrpataki would pass. I'm sure there is not a scarcity of Drag Queens in Kinky Church to act as ur bridesmaid.

@ Revving Rev,

Seriously you really seem to be changing a bit nowadays
Thoniaslim said it in the travel thread, now i will say it here, you have quite reasonanble words at times, i wonder why you allow the ugly part of you to take the better of you in the gone year.

Hope you get to improve on further as the days goes by.

@ Belloti,
Welcome back on board and let me wish you a Happy New Year.
Yeah, your question that you raised has been raised as a topic on this thread, i would suggest you find it out and read it to get a better grasp on the issue you seem not to understand.

Sorry to digress from your topic earlier.

@Gbade & Mr Pataki

I do not want to go off topic here but:

If Jesus were God and God Jesus then the question is to both of you:-

Do you have the high heeled shoes and stockings already or do I have to buy them for you?

belloti:

You guys are derailing my topic with your deliberate policy of side tracking on serious issues. Tell us what makes you believe that Jesus the wonderful son of Mary is your own God. Tell us about the fate of those generation that passed away before the "Gods" mother became pregnat and finally delivered him. There were born and taken away before the arrival of the Lord himself. Funny, huh?

your ignorance knows no bounds.
Why are you so concerned about the dead than worry of your eternity.

The scriptures knew there'll be foolish questions such as yours and an answer was made available.
You see,Christ had it all covered.
See your answer below.

Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.


Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

@Babiosisi


Welcome back, haven't seen you in a long time.


Perhaps you were in Nigeria.

@ Revving Rev:

like i once said, me and pataki would pass.

Just don't forget applying lipstick and cosmetics on your wedding day.

another good scripture @ bellotti


Rom 2:14  For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Our God is a perfect and just God.
He left room for no ifs and buts
You my friend has heard the gospel,you are now without excuse.

Yes sista,i had a great time in Naija.
Have a wonderful new year.

@Gbade

You and Pataki will have to apply your own make-up

I hear that Pataki has a very good make-up selection

God will help us

belloti:

You guys are derailing my topic with your deliberate policy of side tracking on serious issues. Tell us what makes you believe that Jesus the wonderful son of Mary is your own God. Tell us about the fate of those generation that passed away before the "Gods" mother became pregnat and finally delivered him. There were born and taken away before the arrival of the Lord himself. Funny, huh?

Oga Belloti,

Sallam. I often read the refrain Muslims make about people derailing or digressing from questions they ask. I wonder how many times you guys have derailed and detracted from questions others ask. I haven't seen anyone of you guys attempting the very simple one posed by shahan, and I here repost it for you:

Well, if Christianity is wrong because of Who Jesus Christ proved Himself to be (sinless and loving); could Islam be right if we apply the same test to who Muhammad proved himself to be?

If you pay close attention to the rejoinders to your concerns, could you possibly miss the gist that you had no point at all to convey? It would be interesting to read some new concerns of yours, if you have any.

@malik,

where in the bible did jesus say he is sinless or where was it written that he was sinless (pls dont quote paul's letter to me). only the sayings of jesus.

@ TOPIC
Hmmmm not again ****SHAKES HEAD***

babs787:

@malik,

where in the bible did jesus say he is sinless or where was it written that he was sinless (please don't quote paul's letter to me). only the sayings of jesus.

If you accuser of the brethren is waiting for a specific passage where Christ said "I have no sin", then you will wait till you are dead in your sins.

Matthew 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

How can a man with sin save HIS people from their own sins? Is this possible?

Mark 2:17
When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Can a sinner call fellow sinners to repentance?

Luke 5:8
When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord.

Was Simon Peter drunk when he refered to Christ as LORD? If truly Jesus Christ was not Lord, would he not have rebuked Peter? If Peter thought Jesus was a sinful man like himself, why would he tell Jesus to depart from him because he was a sinful man?

John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

If indeed Jesus Christ felt that John the Baptist was errorneously referiing to him as the Lamb of God here without sin, why did He not rebuke John?

Keep stewing in your ignorance and spiritual blindness!

babs787:

@malik,
where in the bible did jesus say he is sinless or where was it written that he was sinless (please don't quote paul's letter to me). only the sayings of jesus.

@babs787,

You're so hilarious. What are you assuming by that joke of a statement? Okay, if you haven't cured your hatred for Paul, let me offer you Peter's inspired quote instead. In speaking of Jesus, this is what he said:

"Who (i.e., Jesus) did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth" - I Pet. 2:22.

As to where in the bible Jesus said He was sinless, please read these words carefully:

"Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?" - John 8:46.

I offer you the very same challenge Jesus threw above - if Muhammad could not convict Jesus of having sinned once, are you now the next Quraish prophet to denounce Jesus as a sinner?

Anyhow, your question was suggesting that Jesus must have sinned. Could I ask you to prove it from both the Qur'an and the Bible, please. Then, if your confusion is not yet cured after reading through your own 'holy book', I'll be back to help you see what you missed.

Shallom.

@Babyosis, m4malik, Davidylan,
I know why muslim leaders teach hatred of Paul to the muslimis. It is all in the scriptures. If you read carefully the various epistles of Paul in the Bible, you can see that Paul has accurately predicted the coming of this "religion" called Islam.
For example, Paul declared the root and destiny of Islam in the book of Galatians 4 vs 22-26. Listen
"For it is written that Abraham had two sons, the one by a slavewoman, the other by a freewoman. (23) But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. (24) Which things are symbolic: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Hagar. (25) For this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and correspond to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. (26) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all."

Now, we know that Ishmael, the son of Hagar, is the progenitor of Muhammed and his ideology called Islam. Notice the continous expression of "which now is, and is in bondage with her children." Having predicted the root and destiny of Islam, there is no way they will want you to talk about Apostle Paul!!. But will will declare the truth so that they can be saved.

In addition, look at the 2nd Epistle of Paul to Timothy, chapter 3 vs 1-9 about "the coming apostasy". It accurately describes Islam among others. (Read especially from Vs. 5-9). Verse 1 says: "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,5. Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6. For of this sort are they are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts. 7. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall manifest unto all men, as their's was."

Now if you look especially at the higligted portions of these verse, you will see the Islam of today.

(NB:Jannes and Jambres were Pharaoh magicians who tried to perfom the same miracles of Moses e.g turning rod to snake.)

Well said, Havila.

Babyosisi, hope you're doing good. God bless.

Babs787, come back and 'wait' and pretend no answers have been given, you hear?? May God open your eyes as He did mine. I can only pray for you - because it was hard for me as a muslim; but there's no one God can't save. Shallom.

****Shakes head!

What has happened to my question to Muslim apologists? They said we often detract from issues, but I left them a question and none of them have answered.

Okay, here it is again:

"Well, if Christianity is wrong because of Who Jesus Christ proved Himself to be (sinless and loving); could Islam be right if we apply the same test to who Muhammad proved himself to be?"

Over to you babs787, belloti (originator of this thread), and others who help your debate.

they'll tell you Muhammad was a mere mortal when you talk of his dirty ways then he is suddenly catapulted to stardom when it suits their argument.


listen to some answers I've gotten from them.

When asked why Mo preferred to marry and sleep with a 6 year old baby,a muslim forumite answered that 6 year olds at that time were considered mature and ready for marriage.
when showed evidence it still occurs today,they said nothing.

when asked why he(Mo) asked his followers to marry not more than 4 wives and Mo had multiples of 4 women to himself including captured slave girls,a forumite said,he was helping out the female folk to even out the large female population and olabowole added that it was the fantasy of every man.

When asked why the barbaric act of finger cutting and hand chopping was still in practice and why a muslin who turned Christian was sentenced to death and killed,a Muslim forumite.bellotti responded that conversion was equal to treason and treason was punishable by death and allah is aye okay with it.

when asked why a muslim woman would be stoned to death for adultery and rape and the man set free,bellotti says it's easier to convict women in such cases than men.

When asked why Muslims married temporary wives,we were told that it was only shittes not sunnis.

When asked why Muslims were cruel to the women folk and are treated as second hand citizens and property in Muslim countries,they say it is an arab culture not Islam(go figure)

When asked why they come out en masse to threaten us and kill us in the event of cartoons,Mukina said,Muslims were militant and we should stop provoking them.

When asked why Muhammad hated and called blacks names,even comparing them to the devil,no answer.

When asked why they are commanded to hunt us and snap our necks,no response.

when asked why they propose death to Israel and America and why they keep leaving the Islamic paradise to the west,no response.

When asked why everything Islam is sex and more sex,allah knows best.

when asked why the Ayatollah advocated sexual pleasure from babies and infants and even sex with animals,they said nothing.

when asked why Muhammad was so violent and killed people worse than what Saddam,allah knows.

Let me stop so far.