shadeyinka:


Future tense:
How can Mohammed be the last prophet when Isa is coming back to complete his mission?

Would he not come back to convert all Christians to Islam?

The truth is that Mohammed does not bear any mark of a prophet. Show me a prophet without a proof of Gods Power. No wonder, the Jews did not believe Mohammed!

Did the Jews believe in Jesus? Jesus is not a new Prophet when he comes again.

Rashduct4luv:


Jesus was asked a question and he says no one knows the day of Resurrection but the father. This implies that the knowledge of anyone born of a woman is limited. Help me ask the holy spirit to tell you when the world will end.

Wait!!!!!, You mean Allah stole Jesus from the Cross because allah asked him a question and he couldn't answer? O Boy, this is bigger than me, let me call a friend...

Me: grring, griing

Greycoder: Yes...

Me: Hello, good morning bros.

Greycoder : Good morning Analice, This one you are calling very early, is everything okay?

Me: No, everything is not okay o.

Greycoder: What is it?

Me: Hmm, One muslim here says Jesus failed a question in an examination, that's why allah stole him from the cross and deceived the Jews to believe that they indeed killed him. Sir, this one pass me, that is why i said i should call you sir.

Come and helep me tell this muslim to ask allah well well why he stole Jesus away, because this answer, hmm, e get as e be.

analice107:

Wait!!!!!, You mean Allah stole Jesus from the Cross because allah asked him a question and he couldn't answer? O Boy, this is bigger than me, let me call a friend...

Me: grring, griing

Greycoder: Yes...

Me: Hello, good morning bros.

Greycoder : Good morning Analice, This one you are calling very early, is everything okay?

Me: No, everything is not okay o.

Greycoder: What is it?

Me: Hmm, One muslim here says Jesus failed a question in an examination, that's why allah stole him from the cross and deceived the Jews to believe that they indeed killed him. Sir, this one pass me, that is why i said i should call you sir.

Come and helep me tell this muslim to ask allah well well why he stole Jesus away, because this answer, hmm, e get as e be.

ar u a rabid dog or what

Rashduct4luv:


We can't question the authority of Allah cos He does whatever He wills.

Yet you want to school me? You filled your Op with stupid copy and paste shiiit, yet you can't answer a simple question?


If the Jews wanted to kill Jesus, they must have a reason, and if allah stole Jesus away and 'DECEIVED' people to think other wise, he must also have a reason.

Allah says, Jesus didn't die, okay, where is Jesus now?

Is allah a lair?

iamgenius:
A voice from Heaven? Not even God's voice. Remember,it's not God alone who is in heaven.

I have met dumb muslims in this forum, you top the chat.

Who do you think will speak out of heaven clearing anything authoritatively?

Listen, because allah is dead and dumb doesn't mean YHWH is. Before muharmad, allah spoke to no one else, after him, allah hasn't spoken to anyone else again? Can't you see that muharmad was allah?

shadeyinka:

I couldn't help but marvel at how you quoted so much scriptures and still refused to harmonize its truths but you completely missed the point. I realize that it is normal for Muslims to do just that in avoiding the TRUTH.

Even Allah was confused about Trinity being "Three" of God, Jesus and Mary how much more his followers. Islam even promotes clearly the idea of "Duality" and by implication "Trinity". Unfortunately, endless repetitions of Arabic scripts prevent them from asking questions.

...and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

Since Muslims do not ask questions, I will ask you a few. Since I also know you will gloss over it, I'll give you a hint.
1. Who invented/ordained "Blood Sacrifice" and for what Purpose?

It wasn't shaitan. It was God himself. For without the shedding of Blood, there cannot be a forgiveness of sin. This is well illustrated in the Jewish Scriptures: "the scape Goat"

In other words, redemption is NOT possible without a sacrifice (to God).

2. What is the difference between Judaism, Christianity and Islam with respect to blood sacrifice?

In Judaism, blood sacrifice is tied to redemption howbeit renewable every year or as needed.

In Christianity, blood sacrifice is tied to redemption and it is one sacrifice ONCE and for all through the Lamb of God (Jesus Christ)

In Islam, blood sacrifice is meaningless. The closest for Muslims is the copy of the sacrifice of Ibrahim of a Ram (of which no Muslim can explain why it must be an annual ritual and for what purpose). I was just the Arab version of a mimic of the Jewish Passover.

3. How come Islam agrees with everything in the Christians Scripture that has no basis of redemption but rejects everything that has to do with it?

Could it be that Islam is deceiving people away from salvation?

4. Why did Allah choose to deceive Mary the mother of Jesus, all of Jesus Disciples,all Christians, the Jews and the Roman about the crucifiction and death of Jesus?

So, why do you think Allah "created" alnabi Isa in the first place? Did Allah fail?

5. If Allah had to "create" a special human being Isah to come and preach to "only the Jews" to what essence?
Allah must have failed in his mission for Isa.
..and his greatest prophet CANNOT be Mohammed but Isa. Think about it!

-Isa is still alive isn't it? And Mohammed is dead
-Isa will kill the dajjal, break the crosses and kill the pigs (his prophethood has not expired)

Who then is the last prophet?

Allah indeed is the best of decievers!
Quran7:99 Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) ? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish.

The Religion of Islam is the religion of all Prophet from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Solomon, David to Jesus and Muhammad. Peace be on them all. All of them submits to the will of Allah and as such are Muslims.

The scripture given to Moses was Torah and this was for his people. This Torah lapse when the next Prophet given another law comes.

Jesus was given the Injeel which was for his people.

Muhammad was given the Qur'an which is for the whole world from his time till the end of time.

Blood sacrifice? Does God drink blood? It was just to signify a form of worship.

And asking why Allah did whatever He did was way above you! He does whatever He wills anytime he wishes!

Allah is above human Qualities. Failing or Making mistakes is a human Quality.

iamgenius:
It was a voice that said This is my beloved son.. . There is no proof that the voice is God's? I don't believe in dem say dem talk.

Alright! At least Jesus attested to the fact that the Voice was His father's! And Jesus had always referred to His Father who you know isn't Joseph. Who does Jesus call His Father?

The whole Qur'an was dictated NOT by God but by a spirit who is purported to be Jubril!
But, why dodge my post?

shadeyinka:


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At least it wasn't like Mohammed who didn't even know the identity of the spirit who spoke to him. It took a combination of Kadijah and Waraqa to convince him that it was Jubril. If a spirit actually spoke to Mohammed, it must be a demon.

If I lie, show me anyone else in the Taurat, Zabura, Injeel or any other scripture where an angel almost strangled the messanger or where a slight resemblance of this kind of Mohammed's encounter took place and I will apologize and henceforth take Islam more seriously. Jubril did not even introduce himself anywhere or did he?

analice107:

Yet you want to school me? You filled your Op with stupid copy and paste shiiit, yet you can't answer a simple question?


If the Jews wanted to kill Jesus, they must have a reason, and if allah stole Jesus away and 'DECEIVED' people to think other wise, he must also have a reason.

Allah says, Jesus didn't die, okay, where is Jesus now?

Is allah a lair?

Why was Elijah carried away with a Chariot of fire?

Find answers from your Bible please!

Rashduct4luv:



The Religion of Islam is the religion of all Prophet from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Solomon, David to Jesus and Muhammad. Peace be on them all. All of them submits to the will of Allah and as such are Muslims.

Sorry, it is a lie you have been told in Islam.
-If Islam was Judaism, it would have known and understood the concept of redemption by blood sacrifice.
-If the religion of Islam is the religion of all the prophets then, Allah and Jehovah are the same!

Pls truthfully answer this
As Muslims, do you worship Jehovah?

Rashduct4luv:

The scripture given to Moses was Torah and this was for his people. This Torah lapse when the next Prophet given another law comes.

Jesus was given the Injeel which was for his people.

Muhammad was given the Qur'an which is for the whole world from his time till the end of time.

Another lie!
Can you explain how Alnabi Musa was given the Taurat?
Everyone except Muslims know that Moses wasn't the sole author of the Torah

Can you also explain how the Zabura was given to David?
Everyone except muslims knows that the Psalms wasn't written by David alone

Jesus did not write one single Book. So, how come He was given the Injeel which was available at the time of Prophet Mohammed?

You know what Jesus said!?
Mark16:15-16
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Rashduct4luv:

Blood sacrifice? Does God drink blood? It was just to signify a form of worship.

And asking why Allah did whatever He did was way above you! He does whatever He wills anytime he wishes!

Allah is above human Qualities. Failing or Making mistakes is a human Quality.

I said it!
No Muslim understand the pivots of Judaism. It was blood sacrifice. This is one of the biggest mistakes of Islam. How can you claim the Religion of the Prophets of Judaism are practicing Islam and yet the pivot beats you!

Open the Taurat and read: probably you will understand.
Do you know that the concept of Sacrifice is that of the Scape Goat? It was God who commanded it that redemption could take place while not breaking the rule of justice: for no sinner shall go unpunished.

shadeyinka:

Duality of the Human being!
We Christians believe in the Trinity of Human Beings

Jesus didn't have to worship? He needed to converse with His Father....and how could He since He is part of the Trinity of God

I don't know where you got the concept of 4 different gods. Even the catholics who regard Mary so highly do not treat her as a god. Pls do answer this question
So, which of the christian sects or denominations have three gods and what are their names?
And pls a small proof of some christian sects/denominations who has 4 gods (except you are speaking lies in defence of Islam..google is your friend)

Like I said, if you don't understand, ASK...! What is Trinity?

So, since I am not a Muslim, you may want to enlighten me:
What is the "Spiritual Value" (not moral value) of the Blood Sacrifice you do in Eid il kabir?

Brother, you are slaying these muslims like their rams on sala days. Lawwd.

iamgenius:
Since the Prophet (peace be upon him) can't read or write, Allah ask him to ask and confirms from the Jews and the Christians that his name was written in their books, yet they (Christians and Jews) still didn't believe in him as the messenger if God. Next time do your research well before talking gibberish.

Wait!!!!, You mean the name of allah was written in the same book allah says is corrupt?

Rashduct4luv:


The Prophethood has been complete and Muhammad is the Last of them. 'Eesa is not a new Prophet, he is coming back to complete his mission!

Peace be on them all.

He coming back from where?

Rashduct4luv:



Did the Jews believe in Jesus? Jesus is not a new Prophet when he comes again.

Since he has not completed his work,
AND
He is not yet Dead

then, He (Jesus) is the last


Please truthfully answer this
What was Isa's achievement in his first coming?

Didn't he fail miserably?

shadeyinka:


It was the Fathers Voice
Matthew 17:5
While he was still speaking, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice out of the cloud said, "This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased; listen to Him!"

At least it wasn't like Mohammed who didn't even know the identity of the spirit who spoke to him. It took a combination of Kadijah and Waraqa to convince him that it was Jubril. If a spirit actually spoke to Mohammed, it must be a demon.

If I lie, show me anyone else in the Taurat, Zabura, Injeel or any other scripture where an angel almost strangled the messanger or where a slight resemblance of this kind of Mohammed's encounter took place and I will apologize and henceforth take Islam more seriously. Jubril did not even introduce himself anywhere or did he?

I have been asking Muslims these questions since i joined Nairaland. That group of Muslims have all evaporated and a new crop is here. All dumb as hell.

analice107:

Brother, you are slaying these muslims like their rams on sala days. Lawwd.

They don't think deep.
To much memorization of Arabic scripts lock our sound judgements

Rashduct4luv:



Y d abuse? I can't abuse Jesus but u call our Prophet momo? This shows you are ill-bred and uncouth! good bye!

He didn't say mumu, he said momo, short for mo-harm-mad.

iamgenius:
Part if what was revealed to him is the mention of his name in the scriptures

Sorry friend, that's a big lie!
Where is Mohammed s name written in the Taurat or Zabura or Injeel?

Oh! The Christian's have edited it. They removed it completely.

Are you not re echoing what Waraqa said to Mohammed.

If Waraqa was correct, how come he didn't convert to Islam? Learn your history

Rashduct4luv:

I know you can't discuss without abuse.It's inborn in you guys. And very soon you will call us terrorist whereas you are the one starting it.

We Muslims swear by Allah only but Allah swears by whatever pleases Him.

And for miracles, we don't advertise our religion with miracles cos even false prophets can do that.

You would never understand anything but lies and bigotry!

Who is Allah's god whom he swears by? You swear by allah, allah swears by the stars and mountains, allah is god indeed.

Rashduct4luv:



Did the Jews believe in Jesus? Jesus is not a new Prophet when he comes again.

Jesus will not be a prophet when he comes back from where nah? And, what will he be according to the koran?

Rashduct4luv:

I know you can't discuss without abuse.It's inborn in you guys. And very soon you will call us terrorist whereas you are the one starting it.

We Muslims swear by Allah only but Allah swears by whatever pleases Him.

And for miracles, we don't advertise our religion with miracles cos even false prophets can do that.

You would never understand anything but lies and bigotry!

We swear by only that which is greater or comparable to us!

Jehovah swears by nothing except His Word.
Allah swears by the Moon, the stars the mountains etc. These were things the pagan Arabs swear with my friend!

Someone is clearly trying to impersonate God

umarshek6:
ar u a rabid dog or what

Whatever you call me, doesn't mean anything to me. Just tell me why allah stole Jesus and where he is right now./

Rashduct4luv:


Why was Elijah carried away with a Chariot of fire?

Find answers from your Bible please!

Hey, jumping Chicken, take a stand and focus. If this is about Elijah, then we shall address him, but alas, we are about Jesus. Why did allah stole Jesus away?

Where is Jesus now?

Hahahaha. Isn't Elijah Allah's prophet again? Allah also take him away right? Why?

shadeyinka:

Sorry, it is a lie you have been told in Islam.
-If Islam was Judaism, it would have known and understood the concept of redemption by blood sacrifice.
-If the religion of Islam is the religion of all the prophets then, Allah and Jehovah are the same!

Pls truthfully answer this
As Muslims, do you worship Jehovah?



Another lie!
Can you explain how Alnabi Musa was given the Taurat?
Everyone except Muslims know that Moses wasn't the sole author of the Torah

Can you also explain how the Zabura was given to David?
Everyone except muslims knows that the Psalms wasn't written by David alone

Jesus did not write one single Book. So, how come He was given the Injeel which was available at the time of Prophet Mohammed?

You know what Jesus said!?
Mark16:15-16
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.


I said it!
No Muslim understand the pivots of Judaism. It was blood sacrifice. This is one of the biggest mistakes of Islam. How can you claim the Religion of the Prophets of Judaism are practicing Islam and yet the pivot beats you!

Open the Taurat and read: probably you will understand.
Do you know that the concept of Sacrifice is that of the Scape Goat? It was God who commanded it that redemption could take place while not breaking the rule of justice: for no sinner shall go unpunished.

May the Lord Jesus continue to give you Wisdom and Understanding to expound His Words and bring light to those living in darkness. Amen.

shadeyinka:

They don't think deep.
To much memorization of Arabic scripts lock our sound judgements

No, they don't. As early as they know to speak, they begin the koranic recitation, they remain at that level, no meditation to get revelations of what the words in the koran means.

They haven't attempted answering even one of your questions.

Something else beats me, everytime a Muslim sees Jesus in a revelation, they leave islam completely. Why they don't stay in islam and cleave to isa, i don't know. There's Jesus in the koran, but once there's conversion, they leave islam at the risk of their lives.

These people are victims in the hands of satan.

Rashduct4luv:



Y d abuse? I can't abuse Jesus but u call our Prophet momo? This shows you are ill-bred and uncouth! good bye!

Momo is the short form of Muhammad that's not an abuse. And everytime you degrade my God to a man even bellow momo is the biggest abuse ever! So take a chill pill and face the argument at hand.

Rashduct4luv:


The Prophethood has been complete and Muhammad is the Last of them. 'Eesa is not a new Prophet, he is coming back to complete his mission!

Peace be on them all.

He is coming back! Good. Which means He will be final prophet on earth.

U guyz just proved hw ignorant u are u keep on editing d bible till it became worthless dat u even put it under ur armpit

shadeyinka:

We swear by only that which is greater or comparable to us!

Jehovah swears by nothing except His Word.
Allah swears by the Moon, the stars the mountains etc. These were things the pagan Arabs swear with my friend!

Someone is clearly trying to impersonate God

analice107:

Hey, jumping Chicken, take a stand and focus. If this is about Elijah, then we shall address him, but alas, we are about Jesus. Why did allah stole Jesus away?

Where is Jesus now?

Hahahaha. Isn't Elijah Allah's prophet again? Allah also take him away right? Why?

shadeyinka:

We swear by only that which is greater or comparable to us!

Jehovah swears by nothing except His Word.
Allah swears by the Moon, the stars the mountains etc. These were things the pagan Arabs swear with my friend!

Someone is clearly trying to impersonate God

analice107:

He didn't say mumu, he said momo, short for mo-harm-mad.

This my sister self

ilynem:
This my sister self

welcome back

shadeyinka:

Since he has not completed his work,
AND
He is not yet Dead

then, He (Jesus) is the last


Please truthfully answer this
What was Isa's achievement in his first coming?

Didn't he fail miserably?

I have been here before. Let me explain how it goes. They will tell you His achievement was to predict the coming of momo. And when you ask for proof of this, they will point to John 16. and when you prove to them that John 16 was talking specifically about the Holy spirit, they will tell you the we have corrupted the scriptures. So their prophet Isa's only achievement was to reveal the coming of momo and even at that Allah couldn't even keep the evidence as he let his own creations corrupt it.

hopefulLandlord:


welcome back

Thank you Brother Hope! It's really good to be back

Rashduct4luv:



Did the Jews believe in Jesus? Jesus is not a new Prophet when he comes again.

There are Christian Jews. Who believe in Jesus.

Those who did not are still expecting their Messiah.

They don't believe that their Messiah will be killed.

That he will establish his kingdom and save them from the Roman reign.

Despite the fact that Jesus fulfilled all the prophesies, the are is disbelieve.


Jesus said his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom.

They fail to realize that it is not an earthly kingdom. No earthly kingdom is everlasting.

The way Jesus died is similar to their sin offering . God told them about it. Yet they couldn't see reason.

Islam said it was not Jesus that was killed. That Allah made him look like the one that was crucified.

The Jews hold their unbelieve because their Messiah cannot be crucified.Almost a whole Nation.

And the Quran says he didn't die.

God will open your eyes.