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| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by Dnaz(m): 6:03am On Dec 12, 2017 |
bencr7:I wonder how u ppl try to limit Jesus, he is God , he can appear to you today in form Of a beggar, your grandfather anything. Stop this myopic claim that he ascended as an adult and cannot transform into a baby |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by Dnaz(m): 6:08am On Dec 12, 2017 |
bencr7:The Mary we honor is the Mother of Jesus, we don't know Semiramis, our hearts don't think of Semiramis and God knows our hearts. It is u who blasphem the Mother of the Lord as Semiramis that is commuting heresy and u ll answer for it before Christ on the last day. U ll tell him the link between his mother and Semiramis and why your heart conjure evils to dishonor her |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by hadow(m): 10:14am On Dec 12, 2017 |
saintmark88:Jesus isn't God |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by hadow(m): 10:21am On Dec 12, 2017 |
easymancfc:what u just said now portrays that you think saints are only those who are dead. Romans 8:27, 1 Corinthians 6:1 |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by ichuka(m): 10:51am On Dec 12, 2017 |
Dnaz:Comprehension is your problem. Let me give you another chance to see .luke1:47 and my spirit rejoices in God my SAVIOR!! Her Savior?why would she need a SAVIOR if she holy. |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 11:00am On Dec 12, 2017 |
hadow: Hahahaha....n u claim to be a christian.....u r not different from the Jews who do not believe n d divinity of Jesus |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by analize701: 11:11am On Dec 12, 2017 |
Dnaz:In a bit to give Mary divinity, you just missused the Scriptures. It didn't say, a body you have prepared for us. He said 'a body you have prepared for ME'. The question shd be, what does that mean? What body is Christ talking about? Why did He need a body to be prepared for Him? Jesus was a Spirit, in all of the Old Testament, he was there (Altho he wasnt called Jesus), but when it was time for Him to come down here, when he needed to come into the realm of the flesh for an assignment, then YHWH prepared Him a body just like every other body, a house for the spirit. The reason Jesus needed our kind of body is so that He can have blood to shed. Again, He needed to live on earth going through all the temptation man undergoes and overcomes, so that man won't accuse God of demanding from Man the impossible. Mary didn't need a body to be prepared for her, because she had a body already. So, pls when you quote Scriptures know that scriptures have rhema. So you broke it by trying to make that scripture mean what you want. |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by bloodofthelamb(m): 11:21am On Dec 12, 2017 |
Dnaz: Christ Jesus is a descendant of David through Joseph his legal Father in the Flesh. And no God did not lie. |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 12:07pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
ichuka: The argument of the catholics is that God made her pure meaning he saved her at d point of her birth.....prepared her to be a vessel. So asking y she called God her saviour is pretty Dumb... because ultimately God saved her at her conception |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by analize701: 12:11pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Dnaz:Lolzzzzz. In trying to give Mary Divinity, you commit blunders. Jesus is not the Seed of Adam, if he were, he would have the original sin. Abeh nah, stop this scriptures summersaults. |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 12:13pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
analize701: Lemme ask u a simple question, the Bible made it clear that God is too pure to behold evil. Do u tink that same God, the holies of holies will take residence in a dirty vessel?? |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by analize701: 12:22pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Fxwarrior:It's not him as a person, he is only acting out according to his portfolio. According to prophecy, the office of the Pontifex Maximus will be the office of the False Prophet to the Antichrist. Meaning, Whoever becomes the Pope then, will be in charge of religious affairs under the government of the Antichrist Whoever will be the Pope at that time will galvanize other world's religions into one umbrella. But, before then, whoever occupies that office will pervert truths, plant lies, try to change the Biblical Principles which will allow other religions to worship god (the Antichrist) while still upholding their personal Creeds. If we take a closer look at the Papacy, we will see all that happening from the inception of the Catholic Church. 1 Like |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 12:33pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
analize701: No one is giving Mary divinity, Mary is as human as every other human, the difference be her and u and i is because she is full of grace. “FULL OF GRACE!” That is the term that the archangel Gabriel used when addressing Mary, in Luke 1:28. Notice that Gabriel does not call her by her name of Mary, but instead calls her “Full of Grace.” This new name for Mary indicates a change in her status in life, just like when Abram’s name was changed to Abraham, Sarai’s name was changed to Sarah, Jacob’s name was changed to Israel, and when Simon’s name was changed to Kephas (Rock), or Peter. The actual term in Greek (the original language that Luke was written in) is “kecharitomene,” which is the perfect passive participle of the Greek word “charitoo” (grace). In other words, kecharitomene means “You who have been graced.” And when you add the word “full” to kecharitomene, Gabriel is calling Mary by her new title of “You who have been filled with grace.” And as anyone knows, when you are full of anything, there is no room left over for anything else. Therefore, Mary, who was full of God’s grace, could not sin, or have the stain of original sin on her soul, because there was no room for any of that. Romans 6:14 says: “For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.” And while this is true for all of us sinners to a degree, it is fully true of Mary, who is not only under grace, but is FULL OF GRACE. There is another example of scripture where the term “full of grace” is used, in Acts 6:8: And Stephen, full of grace and power, did great wonders and signs among the people.” But the Greek term for “full of grace” here is not “kecharitomene,” but rather, “pleres charitos.” “Pleres charitos” is a different tense of being filled with grace, and means “a temporary filling with grace at that point in time,” and does not equate to kechariomene,” which means “has been filled with grace.”. No one gives Mary divinity but in saying she is without sin is simply acknowledging Gods saving power |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by analize701: 12:36pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Ochoiho:Abi o |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by Ochoiho: 2:30pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
saintmark88: Which Solomon are you talking about, do you even read the Bible talkless of understanding it? Solomon Introduced Israel to Idolatry thesame way Catholic introduce Idolatry into Christianity. ! King 11: 4-5 'For when Solomon was old, his wives turned his heart away after other gods; and his heart was not wholly devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been. 5For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians and after Milcom the detestable idol of the Ammonites. 6Solomon did what was evil in the sight of the LORD, and did not follow the LORD fully, as David his father had done' Solomon's linage lost the throne except for Judah for sake of David the Man after God's Heart. If God could reject Solomon because of Idolatry(The same person who prayed and fire came down to consume the sacrifice during the dedication of the Temple) then who are you? Catholic's idolatry is similar to that of African's. Both are built on the believe that the Dead are watching over the living and can hear and recieve thier prayers. The Devil is behind both. Please repent, give your life to Jesus and become born again, then you can make Heaven eventually, anything sort of that is a wastage of your time. |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 2:43pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
analize701: I asked u question u failed to ansa....will God who is too holy and pure to behold sin and evil, take up residence in an unholy place?? |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by hadow(m): 2:56pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
saintmark88:read 1 john 5:7 and the trinity are distinct personalities that co-exist |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 3:08pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Ochoiho: Ur understanding of scripture is low....u mentioned images and I said Solomon made images. U went on to talk bout Solomon going after Asthoreth, using that as a yardstick to attack the Catholic church. Now lemme shame u. 1st kings 6:23 Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version For the inner sanctuary he made a pair of cherubim out of olive wood, each ten cubits high. New Living Translation He made two cherubim of wild olive wood, each 15 feet tall, and placed them in the inner sanctuary. English Standard Version In the inner sanctuary he made two cherubim of olivewood, each ten cubits high. New American Standard Bible Also in the inner sanctuary he made two cherubim of olive wood, each ten cubits high. King James Bible And within the oracle he made two cherubims of olive tree, each ten cubits high. Holman Christian Standard Bible In the inner sanctuary he made two cherubim 15 feet high out of olive wood. What's a cherubim, a winged angel...is this an image or not. He made an image in the sanctuary, d holiest place in the temple. 2 Chronicles 3:10 Then he made two sculptured cherubim in the room of the holy of holies and overlaid them with gold.. Also the doors of the temple had images 1kings 6:32 New Living Translation These double doors were decorated with carvings of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers. The doors, including the decorations of cherubim and palm trees, were overlaid with gold. Now c what God said after he finished the temple with these images that this man says images are idolatry 1kings 9 1-3 When Solomon had finished building the temple of the LORD and the royal palace, and had achieved all he had desired to do, Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version the LORD appeared to him a second time, as he had appeared to him at Gibeon New International Version The LORD said to him: "I have heard the prayer and plea you have made before me; I have consecrated this temple, which you have built, by putting my Name there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there. We see here God approves of the temple with the images. Now tell me how does making images in Gods temple as Solomon did and going after another god relate??.....hope u can see ur ignorance |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 3:12pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
hadow: This proves the divinity of Christ now....what are u saying. Allow the spirit illuminate ur mind and teach u the time which u don't understand |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by hadow(m): 3:21pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
saintmark88:I didn't say Christ isn't divine I said he is not the same as the father |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 3:32pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
hadow: Okay now we get to agree on that.....I didn't say Christ is the Father.....but he is God |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by hadow(m): 3:33pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
saintmark88:exactly |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 3:37pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by hadow(m): 3:39pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
saintmark88:what do you mean by God |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 3:44pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
hadow: Is there another God u know?? |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by hadow(m): 4:08pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
saintmark88:explain fully I thought God was the father |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by Dnaz(m): 4:32pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Dnaz:This is what I quoted there was no US its clearly Hebrew 10:5 |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by Dnaz(m): 4:33pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
analize701:In a bid to prove ur point u LIED that I misused the scriptures when clearly u are d guilty one |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by saintmark88(m): 4:34pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
hadow: The Father is diff from the Son and the Holy spirut, but the three are one God. |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by Dnaz(m): 4:42pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
It is clearly stated that God prepared a body for Jesus. I never said us. Jesus was God before the incarnation. As God he can't dwell in an impure body, to protect his body God must have to protect his mother who is a seed of Adam. This God achieved throughout the immaculate conception of Mary. Mary' s ovum already saved from the sin of Adam and unstained by it was fertilized miraculously by the holy spirit thus Jesus was conceived As it is said in scriptures' A virgin shall conceive and bear a son' notice the key word is conceive. And conception is the fertilization of an ovum. It did not just say a virgin shall bear a son. That ll be surrogacy Thus Mary's DNA is in Christ and she is a seed of Adam which makes Christ the seed of Adam too. |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by analize701: 5:00pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Dnaz:Where is my lie? |
| Re: Pope Claims Angels Greeting Mary As Being Full Of Grace Meant She Is Without Sin by analize701: 5:07pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
saintmark88:Hahahahahahahaha. Bros, the Holy Spirit is God i hope you know? He dwells in us believers today yeah? Are we Pure and perfect? Don't we commit fornication, lie and exhibit pride? Listen, no matter how you try to venerate Mary more than is necessary, It won't pass. You Catholics shy away from Mary's role in Jesus' Ministry. Who was she? What role did she play as recorded in the Bible? Even Mary Magdalene became more prominent than her as she became the very first woman evangelist. Why not impress on who and what Mary was after the dead of her son? At what point did this veneration begin? because, Jesus never gave her any special treatment. |
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