saintmark88:


No one is giving Mary divinity, Mary is as human as every other human, the difference be her and u and i is because she is full of grace.

“FULL OF GRACE!” That is the term that the archangel Gabriel used when addressing Mary, in Luke 1:28. Notice that Gabriel does not call her by her name of Mary, but instead calls her “Full of Grace.” This new name for Mary indicates a change in her status in life, just like when Abram’s name was changed to Abraham, Sarai’s name was changed to Sarah, Jacob’s name was changed to Israel, and when Simon’s name was changed to Kephas (Rock), or Peter. The actual term in Greek (the original language that Luke was written in) is “kecharitomene,” which is the perfect passive participle of the Greek word “charitoo” (grace). In other words, kecharitomene means “You who have been graced.” And when you add the word “full” to kecharitomene, Gabriel is calling Mary by her new title of “You who have been filled with grace.” And as anyone knows, when you are full of anything, there is no room left over for anything else. Therefore, Mary, who was full of God’s grace, could not sin, or have the stain of original sin on her soul, because there was no room for any of that. Romans 6:14 says: “For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.” And while this is true for all of us sinners to a degree, it is fully true of Mary, who is not only under grace, but is FULL OF GRACE.

There is another example of scripture where the term “full of grace” is used, in Acts 6:8: And Stephen, full of grace and power, did great wonders and signs among the people.” But the Greek term for “full of grace” here is not “kecharitomene,” but rather, “pleres charitos.” “Pleres charitos” is a different tense of being filled with grace, and means “a temporary filling with grace at that point in time,” and does not equate to kechariomene,” which means “has been filled with grace.”.

No one gives Mary divinity but in saying she is without sin is simply acknowledging Gods saving power

Keep your idolatry on, when you realize it, it will be too late.

analize701:

Hahahahahahahaha. Bros, the Holy Spirit is God i hope you know? He dwells in us believers today yeah? Are we Pure and perfect? Don't we commit fornication, lie and exhibit pride?

Listen, no matter how you try to venerate Mary more than is necessary, It won't pass.

You Catholics shy away from Mary's role in Jesus' Ministry. Who was she?

What role did she play as recorded in the Bible?

Even Mary Magdalene became more prominent than her as she became the very first woman evangelist.

Why not impress on who and what Mary was after the dead of her son?

At what point did this veneration begin? because, Jesus never gave her any special treatment.

All these Christians way go dey form saydem know but them no know......pls show me were it is n d scripture that the Holy spirit lives in us wen we sin

I know light and darkness can never cohabit.....nah xo bible talk am....so pls show me were u got that idea den I'll know u know what u talking about, else I'll know u r an ignorant fellow, who knows nothing

analize701:

Keep your idolatry on, when you realize it, it will be too late.

Wen faced with truth that cannot be refuted, this is what they resort to. All these pentecostal that will read one part of scripture and start preaching heresy because they tink they know wen they don't.

Pls come and show me were the bible said the holy spirit lives in us wen we commit fornication and do all other tins....it just shows u dnt even know the God u serve........."Holy"......does that word mean anything to u??

Ochoiho:

Which Solomon are you talking about, do you even read the Bible talkless of understanding it?
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My dear it is you that is reading the bible upside down...
Solomon built the Temple for God according to the specifications God gave his father David, (cf 2 sam 7, 1 chron 17 &1 chron 28 emphasis on verse 6 He said to me, ‘It is Solomon your son who shall build my house and my courts,) Solomon did Just that in 1 kings 6.. With 15 ft tall golden statues of cherubims (1 kings 6:23 - 28), on the walls he carved images gourds and flowers ( 1kings 6:18), He also carved on all the walls round the house images of cherubims and palm trees (1 kings 6:29) and on the doors also (1 kings 6:32, 35)..
SO INDEED THE TEMPLE OF JERUSALEM WHICH SOLOMON BUILT WAS FILLED WITH IMAGES AND STATUES, AND DID GOD REJECT THE TEMPLE OR CONDEMN HIM FOR MAKING STATUES?? NOO BECAUSE HE OBEYED GODS COMMAND WHILE HE WAS BUILDING THE TEMPLE..
1 Kings 6:11 Now the word of the Lord came to Solomon, 12 “Concerning this house which you are building, if you will walk in my statutes and obey my ordinances and keep all my commandments and walk in them, then I will establish my word with you, which I spoke to David your father.

AND AFTER BUILDING THE TEMPLE GOD WAS PLEASED AND CONSECRATED THE TEMPLE... EVEN WITH THE IMAGES TO HIMSELF AND PUT HIS NAME ON IT..
1 Kings 8: 10 And when the priests came out of the holy place, a cloud filled the house of the Lord, 11 so that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud; for the glory of the Lord filled the house of the Lord. (Read the whole chapter)
1 kings 9: 1When Solomon had finished building the house of the Lord and the king’s house and all that Solomon desired to build, 2 the Lord appeared to Solomon a second time, as he had appeared to him at Gibeon. 3 And the Lord said to him, “I have heard your prayer and your supplication, which you have made before me; I have consecrated this house which you have built, and put my name there for ever
SO THE BUILDING OF THE TEMPLE IS A BIBLICAL TRUTH.. AND THE TEMPLE HAS IMAGES.. even the prophecy of Ezekiel for the rebuilding of the temple has images (cf 40, 41:1-18,19-end )

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Solomon Introduced Israel to Idolatry the same way Catholic introduce Idolatry into Christianity.

ARE YOU SAYING THE TEMPLE SOLOMON BUILT FOR GOD IS IDOLATROUS

Ochoiho:

! King 11: 4-5 'For when Solomon was old,his wives turned his heart away after other gods; and his heart was not whollydevoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been. 5For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians and after Milcom the detestable idol of the Ammonites. 6Solomon did what was evilin the sight of the LORD, and did not follow the LORD fully, as David his fatherhad done'Solomon's linage lost the throne except for Judah for sake of David the Man after God's Heart.

The fact that Solomon fell into idolatry in his old age doesn't negate the fact that He built the temple which God accepted with images and statues..
THE PROBLEM HERE AS YOU RIGHTLY POINT OUT IS SERVING OTHER gods (Ashtoreth and Milcom) not in making images of cherubims or any images at all..

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If God could reject Solomon because of Idolatry(The same person who prayed and fire came down to consume the sacrifice during the dedication of the Temple)
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A TEMPLE THAT HAD IMAGES AND STATUES MIND YOU.. IT WAS DEDICATED TO GOD AND GOD CAME DOWN AND CONSUMED THE SACRIFICE DURING THE DEDICATION OF SAID TEMPLE.. So serving Ashtoreh and Milcom HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH BUILDING THE TEMPLE.. WHICH GOD WAS PLEASED WITH BY THE WAY..

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then who are you?Catholic's idolatry is similar to that of African's. Both are built on the believe that the Dead are watching over the living and can hear and recieve thier prayers. The Devil is behind both. Pleaserepent, give your life to Jesus and become born again, then you can make Heaven eventually, anything sort of that is a wastage of your time.
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WRONG AGAIN.. CATHOLICS DONT PRACTICE IDOLATRY.... WE DONT BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WHO DIES IN CHRIST IS "DEAD" BECAUSE
1. Our God is a God of the living not of the dead
Mathew 22:32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.”
2. No one who believes in Jesus dies..
John 11:25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, 26 and whoever lives and believes in me shall never die.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE IN HEAVEN ARE AWARE OF THE THINGS HAPPENING ON EARTH...as the bible says

1. THEY ARE OUR CLOUD OF WITNESSES. CHEERING US ON FROM HEAVEN...
Hebrews 12:1Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us,
2. THEY REJOICE WHEN SINNERS REPENT
Luke 15:7 Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
3. WE HAVE THEM IN HEAVEN AND CAN GO TO THEM
Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

IF YOU THINK THE DEVIL IS BEHIND PEOPLE BEING ALIVE IN CHRIST AND SEEKNG THE FACE OF GOD AND OFFERING PRAISE AND PRAYERS TO GOD FOR THEIR FELLOW CHRISTIANS ON EARTH THEN IT IS YOU WHO NEEDS TO REPENT..
AND P.S ALL CATHOLICS ARE BORN AGAIN AS JESUS COMMANDED IN JOHN 3:5.

saintmark88:


All these Christians way go dey form saydem know but them no know......pls show me were it is n d scripture that the Holy spirit lives in us wen we sin

I know light and darkness can never cohabit.....nah xo bible talk am....so pls show me were u got that idea den I'll know u know what u talking about, else I'll know u r an ignorant fellow, who knows nothing

Lolzzzzz. Poor guy.

Good News Translation 1 John 2:1-2

I am writing this to you, my children, so that you will not sin; [b]but if anyone does sin, we have someone who pleads with the Father on our behalf—Jesus Christ, the righteous one.

And Christ himself is the means by which our sins are forgiven, and not our sins only, but also the sins of everyone.

If you think the Holy Spirit leaves us when we fall into sin, then you need a lesson on the Holy Spirit.

It's like saying when your baby poos on you, you throw the child away.

There's a reason why we are called 'CHILDREN OF GOD'

hadow:
what u just said now portrays that you think saints are only those who are dead. Romans 8:27, 1 Corinthians 6:1

NO.. YOU ARE THE ONE SAYING THAT, Everyone one who has been called into Christ is called to be a saint and is a saint if they remain in the faith, But those in Heaven (Mary) have being confirmed as saints because they have received their crown of glory, while those of us here on earth have not received that confirmation yet and can still fall away..
This verse puts it perfectly..
2 peter 1:10 Therefore, brethren, be the more zealous to confirm your call and election, for if you do this you will never fall; 11 so there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

SO THOSE IN HEAVEN HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED IN GOD'S CALL AND ELECTION TO BE SAINTS.. WHILE THOSE OF US ON EARTH WHILE BEING SAINTS MIGHT FALL..

2. BEING SAINTS CAN ALSO MEAN BEING HOLY, WHILE WE ON EARTH ARE STRUGGLING TO BE HOLY, THE SAINTS IN HEAVEN HAVE ALREADY BEEN PERFECTED IN HOLINESS (cf Hebrews 12:21-23)..

3. Think about this analogy, People in medical school can be called doctors because they are in training, but this title is more befitting to those who have graduated, done housemanship and have taken their Hippocratic oath..
The one in medical school even in final year can drop out and become something else.. So while calling him a doctor is good.. It is better to call the one's that have been confirmed as doctors doctors..

So NO, I DON'T THINK ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE DIED ARE SAINTS..

analize701:

Lolzzzzz. Poor guy.

Good News Translation 1 John 2:1-2

I am writing this to you, my children, so that you will not sin; [b]but if anyone does sin, we have someone who pleads with the Father on our behalf—Jesus Christ, the righteous one.

And Christ himself is the means by which our sins are forgiven, and not our sins only, but also the sins of everyone.

If you think the Holy Spirit leaves us when we fall into sin, then you need a lesson on the Holy Spirit.

It's like saying when your baby poos on you, you throw the child away.

There's a reason why we are called 'CHILDREN OF GOD'

Show me a scripture that backs what u have said...how does this scripture proof ur point??.u r showing something different..... I'm not the one who needs a lesson. I said if u cannot back it up den u r an ignorant fellow.....u still have a chance.pls show me

analize701:

Where is my lie?

U quoted me as saying
God prepared a body for us.
Show me where I said that

Dnaz:
Yes Mary was without sin. She was a master piece of God, prepared specially to conceive her son. If Mary was stained with original sin, then Jesus who is God himself will dwell in a sinful body . if she wasn't saved beforehand by God from sin then Jesus will be conceived in sin. Jesus got all his Human DNA from Mary. She'll be was saved by the merits of her son Because she is Theotokos. God bearer.
Pray to the holy spirit for understanding
Chaire kecharitomene

if Mary was saved by the merit of her son it means Mary was a sinner just like any other sinner, it means Mary had merit then why do you catholic give her the merits that is not hers

Jesus was conceived by the power of the holy Spirit not the natural conception, Mary had no hand or role in it.

Luke 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Mary's favour was that she gave birth to the messiah not because she merit it but because God just chose to.
Mary had no special quality that made God chose her, she was just like any other woman.
She was not holy neither was she righteous but God just chose her, now that is called favour.
But that didn't qualify her for heaven except she become born again she could not see the kingdom of God.

IF MARY COULD NOT SAVE HERSELF WHY DO YOU THINK SHE CAN SAVE ANYONE.

Dnaz:

U quoted me as saying
God prepared a body for us.
Show me where I said that

Lol. You quoted a scripture which addressed Jesus specifically but you included Mary in it, hence I used Us instead of Me.

If the body of Mary was prepared like Jesus' and Jesus made that statement covering both him and His mother, He would have said, 'A body you have prepared for Us, instead of a body you have prepared for Me'. You get my point?

saintmark88:


Show me a scripture that backs what u have said...how does this scripture proof ur point??.u r showing something different..... I'm not the one who needs a lesson. I said if u cannot back it up den u r an ignorant fellow.....u still have a chance.pls show me

That is the scripture boy. The Holy does not abandon us because we fall into sin. He helps our infirmities.

Mary whom you are fighting so vigorously to defend was not taken much by his son Jesus. She served and worshiped Him like every other person.


Mary's name was never heard again after the dead of her son, So, pls chill and Wait for Hellfire.

Why Mary cannot intercede for anybody?

In the bible only a physical human being can intercede for human beings, Spirits or angels cannot that is why Christ had to resurrect physically as a human being so that he can fill that gap.
Mary on the other hand is asleep and her Spirit is resting with the Lord. Read these verse very well
Hence the reason the priesthood of Aaron was always interrupted by death.
Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Hebrews 5:1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:

Mary is not qualified to be a mediatrix.
For Mary to be a mediatrix she must suffer all that Christ suffer and still be perfect just like Jesus. Like Christians know there is no one like Jesus he is so different!

saintmark88:


Wen faced with truth that cannot be refuted, this is what they resort to. All these pentecostal that will read one part of scripture and start preaching heresy because they tink they know wen they don't.

Pls come and show me were the bible said the holy spirit lives in us wen we commit fornication and do all other tins....it just shows u dnt even know the God u serve........."Holy"......does that word mean anything to u??

Wonders shall never end, an idol worshipping Catholic is calling me a heretic. hahahahahahahahaha.

So what happens to us when we sin, the Holy Spirit abandons us?

I gave you scripture which addresses believers who fall into sin, but it jumped over your head because if you allow it minister to you, your point will fall flat.

Mary was never a Pure vessel, she was as impure like everyone of us, that she was chosen as a vessel unto honour doesn't make her divine.

That's why i said, enjoy your idolatry because your mind is made up.

Now it's a matter of pride, but when you stand before God, your pride shall deflate.

solite3:
if Mary was saved by the merit of her son it means Mary was a sinner just like any other sinner, it means Mary had merit then why do you catholic give her the merits that is not hers

Jesus was conceived by the power of the holy Spirit not the natural conception, Mary had no hand or role in it.

Luke 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Mary's favour was that she gave birth to the messiah not because she merit it but because God just chose to.
Mary had no special quality that made God chose her, she was just like any other woman.
She was not holy neither was she righteous but God just chose her, now that is called favour.
But that didn't qualify her for heaven except she become born again she could not see the kingdom of God.

IF MARY COULD NOT SAVE HERSELF WHY DO YOU THINK SHE CAN SAVE ANYONE.

She co operated with God by accepting to bear Jesus despite the troubles the pregnancy will bring her.
She also suffered with Jesus as The Prophet Simeon prophesied

34 and Simeon blessed them and said to Mary his mother, "Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising of many in Israel, and for a sign that is spoken against
Luke 2:34

35 (and a sword will pierce through your own soul also), that thoughts out of many hearts may be revealed."
Luke 2:35

A sword will Pierce through your own soul ALSO. Meaning she ll suffer with her son even though its his death that will save the world.
Nobody has claimed Mary is divine . its only ur wrong judgement
And Yes God saved Mary from sinning. She was Sinless
reason why she sayed my soul rejoice in God my Saviour( past tense)

analize701:

Wonders shall never end, an idol worshipping Catholic is calling me a heretic. hahahahahahahahaha.

So what happens to us when we sin, the Holy Spirit abandons us?

I gave you scripture which addresses believers who fall into sin, but it jumped over your head because if you allow it minister to you, your point will fall flat.

Mary was never a Pure vessel, she was as impure like everyone of us, that she was chosen as a vessel unto honour doesn't make her divine.

That's why i said, enjoy your idolatry because your mind is made up.

Now it's a matter of pride, but when you stand before God, your pride shall deflate.

Now he is not only a heretic, he has put himself in the place of God to Judge by calling me an idol worshipper. Iam not surprised even Jesus was called names, pple like him will have called Jesus a drunk, a glutton, a false teacher because he is no better than the pharisees who tink they know but they know nothing.

I asked him to show me were in the Bible it is said that the holy spirit lives in us wen we sin, he cannot, he quoted something that doesn't relate to his point, asking me to cool down and allow it to be ministered to me, Show me were u saw that the holy spirit lives in us wen we sin...oga!!!.....if u cannot, u r a ignorant fellow like I said bfre.

C who's talking about pride, I asked u to prove ur statement, u still have not been able to.......who's too proud to accept that there's nowhere in the bible that says the holy spirit still abides in us wen he sin.....accept u made that up

analize701:

That is the scripture boy. The Holy does not abandon us because we fall into sin. He helps our infirmities.

Mary whom you are fighting so vigorously to defend was not taken much by his son Jesus. She served and worshiped Him like every other person.


Mary's name was never heard again after the dead of her son, So, pls chill and Wait for Hellfire.

I know u r d one who will be at the side of Jesus calling d names of those who will go to hell fire...... Mary said in her magnificat....All generations will call me blessed. I am a part of the fulfilment of that prophesy. Satan is angry , because he doesn't want us to acknowledged d mighty deed of God for Mary. We catholics acknowledge it, as we honor Mary and cal her blessed, we glorify God and his awesome deed

saintmark88:


Now he is not only a heretic, he has put himself in the place of God to Judge by calling me an idol worshipper. Iam not surprised even Jesus was called names, pple like him will have called Jesus a drunk, a glutton, a false teacher because he is no better than the pharisees who tink they know but they know nothing.

I asked him to show me were in the Bible it is said that the holy spirit lives in us wen we sin, he cannot, he quoted something that doesn't relate to his point, asking me to cool down and allow it to be ministered to me, Show me were u saw that the holy spirit lives in us wen we sin...oga!!!.....if u cannot, u r a ignorant fellow like I said bfre.

C who's talking about pride, I asked u to prove ur statement, u still have not been able to.......who's too proud to accept that there's nowhere in the bible that says the holy spirit still abides in us wen he sin.....accept u made that up

My brother don't mind him, he has grandiose delusion

saintmark88:


The Father is diff from the Son and the Holy spirut, but the three are one God.

u have a funny way of disagreeing whilst agreeing, well I concur to your point

saintmark88:


I know u r d one who will be at the side of Jesus calling d names of those who will go to hell fire...... Mary said in her magnificat....All generations will call me blessed. I am a part of the fulfilment of that prophesy. Satan is angry , because he doesn't want us to acknowledged d mighty deed of God for Mary. We catholics acknowledge it, as we honor Mary and cal her blessed, we glorify God and his awesome deed

hahahahahahahahahaha. You really make me laf.

Why not tell me Mary's role in the ministry of Jesus and of the Apostles?

The Bible is so silent as to Mary's achievements, even Mary Magdalene was more prominent than Your Mary, Why?

Why didn't the Bible mention her more? Was that the work of satan?/

analize701:

hahahahahahahahahaha. You really make me laf.

Why not tell me Mary roles in the ministry of Jesus and of the Apostles?

The Bible is so silent as to Mary's achievements, even Mary Magdalene was more prominent than Your Mary, Why?

Why didn't the Bible mention her more? Was that the work of satan?/

U r even more ignorant than I thought......at the foot of the cross Jesus made a wish, u know how important and serious the wish of a dying man is. He said woman behold ur son, and son behold ur mother.

Mary played the role of Mother to the apostles and still plays that role today because Jesus is God and Gods word is life.

I dnt need to sch u on how important ur mother is to u, do I??

saintmark88:


The argument of the catholics is that God made her pure meaning he saved her at d point of her birth.....prepared her to be a vessel. So asking y she called God her saviour is pretty Dumb... because ultimately God saved her at her conception

Any scriptural backing to these?

saintmark88:

Now he is not only a heretic, he has put himself in the place of God to Judge by calling me an idol worshipper. Iam not surprised even Jesus was called names, pple like him will have called Jesus a drunk, a glutton, a false teacher because he is no better than the pharisees who tink they know but they know nothing.

lol. Do i need to call you an idol worshipper before you know you are one? Guy, i was were you are now, and said the exact same thing you said to those who pointed my idolatry to me.

I was a Catholic too and defended my Mary worship, until Christ saved me. I pray you don't die in your Pride.

saintmark88:

asked him to show me were in the Bible it is said that the holy spirit lives in us wen we sin, he cannot, he quoted something that doesn't relate to his point, asking me to cool down and allow it to be ministered to me, Show me were u saw that the holy spirit lives in us wen we sin...oga!!!.....if u cannot, u r a ignorant fellow like I said bfre.

Lolzzz, Rhema is lost on you boy. If you knew scripture you'd ve known that that is the scripture which addresses this issue, but weytin concern you understanding scriptures?

If you have any reasoning abilities you should have asked yourself where the Holy Spirit goes when a believer falls into sin.

Do you even know what indwelling means? lolzzzzz.

saintmark88:

C who's talking about pride, I asked u to prove ur statement, u still have not been able to.......who's too proud to accept that there's nowhere in the bible that says the holy spirit still abides in us wen he sin.....accept u made that up

You Proud that's why you hold so strongly to errors even when the Scripture is clearly opposed to what you stand for.

You asked me to prove my statement i did and it flew over your head because.

I made several points which you jumped over.

When someone believes and is born again, he/she receives the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, his/her spirit gets sealed with the Holy Spirit. Meaning the Holy Spirit dwells in them.

Now my question to you is, if they fall into sin, do they evict the Holy Spirit from them first before falling into sin? Does the Holy Spirit depart from them before they sin?

Or you are saying that when someone becomes born again the parson can not sin anymore?

Wait!!!!!!, You are a Catholic, so doesn't know these things.

Guy, We are like little kids to God. We saves us, we keep messing ourselves up in sin, but the Holy Spirit in us, helps us recover and get restored.

No parent throws away their child becos she pooed.

Pls, continue with your Mary worship and stop talking about Scriptures you know nothing about.

saintmark88:


U r even more ignorant than I thought......at the foot of the cross Jesus made a wish, u know how important and serious the wish of a dying man is. He said woman behold ur son, and son behold ur mother.

Mary played the role of Mother to the apostles and still plays that role today because Jesus is God and Gods word is life.

I dnt need to sch u on how important ur mother is to u, do I??

You didn't answer my questions. What was her role? I can't remember asking for the wish of a dead man.
When Jesus died, how prominent was Mary in the propagation of the Gospel of Christ?

You mean Jesus called the Mary you venerate Woman?'. Not Mother?
U wld have to.post a scripture which says Mary was the mother to the Apostles. How did she Mother them?

All of Acts of Apostles, i never saw Mary, pls show me.

My Mother only brought me into this world to do the will of God. She is a child of God the same way i am. She is not better or more important than i am before God.

You must justify your idolatry by all means. Continu.

We ll continue to honor her. If u call it idolatry its ur own headache not ours

analize701:

You didn't answer my questions. What was her role? I can't remember asking for the wish of a dead man.
When Jesus died, how prominent was Mary in the propagation of the Gospel of Christ?

You mean Jesus called the Mary you venerate Woman?'. Not Mother?
U wld have to.post a scripture which says Mary was the mother to the Apostles. How did she Mother them?

All of Acts of Apostles, i never saw Mary, pls show me.

My Mother only brought me into this world to do the will of God. She is a child of God the same way i am. She is not better or more important than i am before God.

You must justify your idolatry by all means. Continu.

Ignoramus
When they entered the city they went to the upper room where they were staying, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Batholomew and Matthew, James son of Alphaeus, Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James. All these devoted themselves with one accord to prayer, together with some women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.... (there was a group of about 120 persons in the one place).
(Acts 1:13-15)

Someone said she was no were to be found the in Acts of the apostle.

As for the woman thing, y r u pple so short sighted.......

The bible constantly referred to Mary as the mother of Jesus

25 So the soldiers did this. But standing by the cross of Jesus were [b] his mother[\b], and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus saw [b] his mother[\b], and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son!" Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother!" And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home.

(John 19:25-27)

Now tink y would the bible, Gods inspired word refer to Mary as the mother of Jesus twice in JH 19 and Jesus would refuse to refer to her as his mother??....is he rude to his mother...no!!!!......symbolism oga is the ansa. You see this is were we catholics are better than pple like u. Now this use of woman is is used to refer to the woman used on genesis. As tru eve sin came into the world but tru Mary Jesus can!e into the world. We can see farther than pur noses, u guys can't.


By the way u said Mary was nowhere to be found in all of Acts of the apostle.....do u stop agree on that??

saintmark88:


SOLOMON MADE IMAGES IN THE TEMPLE AND GOD WAS PLEASED ND BLESSED HIM. u pple lack understanding of the scripture

but did d scripture say dey bow down to those image. Go and sit down...

bencr7:
but did d scripture say dey bow down to those image. Go and sit down...

Now u have shifted goal post.....he said making images is idolatry....do u agree now that making images doesn't necessarily mean idolatry??

If u agree den we can move to the issue of bowing down

saintmark88:


Ignoramus
When they entered the city they went to the upper room where they were staying, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Batholomew and Matthew, James son of Alphaeus, Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James. All these devoted themselves with one accord to prayer, together with some women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.... (there was a group of about 120 persons in the one place).
(Acts 1:13-15)

Someone said she was no were to be found the in Acts of the apostle.

As for the woman thing, y r u pple so short sighted.......

The bible constantly referred to Mary as the mother of Jesus

25 So the soldiers did this. But standing by the cross of Jesus were [b] his mother[\b], and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus saw [b] his mother[\b], and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son!" Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother!" And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home.

(John 19:25-27)

Now tink y would the bible, Gods inspired word refer to Mary as the mother of Jesus twice in JH 19 and Jesus would refuse to refer to her as his mother??....is he rude to his mother...no!!!!......symbolism oga is the ansa. You see this is were we catholics are better than pple like u. Now this use of woman is is used to refer to the woman used on genesis. As tru eve sin came into the world but tru Mary Jesus can!e into the world. We can see farther than pur noses, u guys can't.


By the way u said Mary was nowhere to be found in all of Acts of the apostle.....do u stop agree on that??

You don't get it do? lolzzz. Your hastiness to respond is making you dizzy.
Who said Mary is not the mother of Jesus?

My point is, What was her prominence in the activities which followed the departure of her son?

She and her other Children who only believed in their senior brother as the messiah after he had died and the Apostles went into the Upper room. And then?

After they went to the Upper room, what did she do that makes you worship her?

Is there any hint that her other children worshipped her for birthing their senior brother or did the Apostles give her any special treatment as the mother of their saviour?

This is what i meant by, 'Not mentioned in Acts of Apostle.



I have indulged you long enough, Now, move along and enjoy your idolatry.

Bye.

analize701:


lol. Do i need to call you an idol worshipper before you know you are one? Guy, i was were you are now, and said the exact same thing you said to those who pointed my idolatry to me.

I was a Catholic too and defended my Mary worship, until Christ saved me. I pray you don't die in your Pride.

Lolzzz, Rhema is lost on you boy. If you knew scripture you'd ve known that that is the scripture which addresses this issue, but weytin concern you understanding scriptures?

If you have any reasoning abilities you should have asked yourself where the Holy Spirit goes when a believer falls into sin.

Do you even know what indwelling means? lolzzzzz.


You Proud that's why you hold so strongly to errors even when the Scripture is clearly opposed to what you stand for.

You asked me to prove my statement i did and it flew over your head because.

I made several points which you jumped over.

When someone believes and is born again, he/she receives the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, his/her spirit gets sealed with the Holy Spirit. Meaning the Holy Spirit dwells in them.

Now my question to you is, if they fall into sin, do they evict the Holy Spirit from them first before falling into sin? Does the Holy Spirit depart from them before they sin?

Or you are saying that when someone becomes born again the parson can not sin anymore?

Wait!!!!!!, You are a Catholic, so doesn't know these things.

Guy, We are like little kids to God. We saves us, we keep messing ourselves up in sin, but the Holy Spirit in us, helps us recover and get restored.

No parent throws away their child becos she pooed.

Pls, continue with your Mary worship and stop talking about Scriptures you know nothing about.

Bla bla bla. If during the times u claim u were a catholic, u felt u worshipped Mary den u were never a catholic, catholics do not worship Mary, I don't worship mary. If u did den its a pity. At least now I know y u r so ignorant, u have always been that way, this statement just proves it . I told this one to provide scripture to back his statement that the holy spirit still abides in us wen we sin. U cannot u r saying bla bla bla...Oga the spirit is holy and cannot cohabit with sin.

1 Sam 15:10-19: Then came the word of the LORD unto Samuel, saying, ‘I greatly regret that I have set up Saul to be king: for he has turned back from following me, and has not performed my commandments’. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the LORD all night.

King Saul was commanded by God kill and destroy all the Amalek and their property but Saul spared Agag, the best of sheep, oxen, fatlings and all that was good. This was disobedience. And it is for this reason the Spirit of God departed from King Saul.

Did the spirit leave Saul or not....Saul was anointed, so the Holy spirit was with Saul, but the spirit left him wen he sinned against God. Oga stop showing ur ignorance of scripture for all to u. U r disgracing urself.

I have been backing up my stands on scripture....so pls provide scripture that shows that the holy spirit remains in us wen we sin

analize701:

You don't get it do? lolzzz. Your hastiness to respond is making you dizzy.
Who said Mary is not the mother of Jesus?

My point is, What was her prominence in the activities which followed the departure of her son?

She and her other Children who only believed in their senior brother as the messiah after he had died and the Apostles went into the Upper room. And then?

After they went to the Upper room, what did she do that makes you worship her?

Is there any hint that her other children worshipped her for birthing their senior brother or did the Apostles give her any special treatment as the mother of their saviour?

This is what i meant by, 'Not mentioned in Acts of Apostle.



I have indulged you long enough, Now, move along and enjoy your idolatry.

Bye.

I just want u to see ur hypocrisy and ignorance. First u said he called her woman, there by diminishing her prominence of mother. Then i show were the inspired word severally refer to her as mother of Jesus. Then u go on to agree..hypocrisy.

She and her other children who believe in the Messiah after he had died....pls were did u get this?

Pls were did the bible say she had other children....like I said I don't worship Mary, no catholic does. So sad u want to force it on me...devil is a lair!!!

Pls provide scriptural backing to those things u said.....scriptural backing o, not what u tink, because that's all u have been doing

saintmark88:


U r even more ignorant than I thought......at the foot of the cross Jesus made a wish, u know how important and serious the wish of a dying man is. He said woman behold ur son, and son behold ur mother.

Mary played the role of Mother to the apostles and still plays that role today because Jesus is God and Gods word is life.

I dnt need to sch u on how important ur mother is to u, do I??

play which role! be like say u dey read back of bible or empty blble