SIRTee15:

Adam that fell is a perfect human being. Do u know what perfect mean.

SIRTee15:

As I said, I refuse to debate u because I know u also JW. I only corrected the guy because he forged a bible verse.

SIRTee15:

God bless u MaxinDhouse.

Steep:

This is not true max, Jesus is the "Express image of God"
Adam was made in God's image but he was never the Express image of God.

The word express means exactly replica, not just a copy but the exact word for word, texture for texture in everything.

Why is Jesus the image of God?
Image means what can be seen, Adam was the closest resemblance of what God is like on earth but however not the exact same thing.

Jesus is the original image of God, meaning if God would be seen then it is Jesus, he is the exact reflection of the invisible God.

Because Jesus is God made flesh that is why he is called the image of God.

MaxInDHouse:

Perfect means created in the image (likeness) of God!

He used terms that you're not familiar with so he is correct you just misunderstood him.

May you have PEACE!

SIRTee15:

He left out 'son is the radiance of God's glory' in that verse. That's forgery and not right.

MaxInDHouse:

It's not forgery in his own version it wasn't interpreted like that:

He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power. And after he had made a purification for our sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

The same could be said of Adam the son of God! Luke 3:38

SIRTee15:

Even at that he left out the 'reflection of God's glory'
It's nice u standing up for your brother in JW, but he's still not right. Except u telling me the JW bible translation doesn't have that part.

MaxInDHouse:

I just quoted the NWT (JW Bible)

SIRTee15:

Ok, but he left out the reflection/radiance part. That's my point.

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ Adam and Jesus are equal in human nature both of them were images of the invisible God. Luke 3:38
The only difference is that one remain obedient despite all trials while the other gave in to selfishness!

Steep:
nothing like images of God.

MaxInDHouse:


Funny churchgoer!


"And God went on to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them" Genesis 1:27

This verse is talking about two persons Adam and Eve, they are both images of who?

Steep:
So where is the word "images" there?

MaxInDHouse:


Adam and Eve are TWO so they are IMAGES!

Steep:
kingdom hall goer,
I said show me in the bible, not your stupid opinon, where was it written that Adam and eve are images of God?

MaxInDHouse:

Churchgoer stop deceiving yourself go and arrest your English teacher in school!

Its simple English singular and plural, One is IMAGE and two are IMAGES!

Steep:
kingdom hall goer, there is nothing like images of God.

Jesus is the exact image of God meaning he is God in the flesh, I can see you are avoiding it because it exposes Jehovah's false witness lies.


Jehovah has nothing to do with false witness organization and their lies.

SIRTee15:


I won't allow u distort a bible verse and get away with it.
Heb 1.3

Oga, why are you throwing tantrums?
I paraphrased Hebrews 1:3, I didn't make any word for word quotation of the verse.

There is NOTHING distorted in my comment.
Your claim is NOT TRUE.

Janosky:


Oga, why are you throwing tantrums?
I paraphrased Hebrews 1:3, I didn't make any word for word quotation of the verse.

There is NOTHING distorted in my comment.
Your claim is NOT TRUE.

SIRTee15:


Heb 1.3

The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

Why did u omit the highlighted, because u uncomfortable with the truth. That's forgery and coming from a Christian says a lot about your belief and your person.

God bless u and I pray he opens your eyes to the truth because u far from it.

@ John 17:7,22,is Jesus Christ teaching SirTee that Jesus radiance (reflection) of God's glory is a gift GIVEN to Jesus?
Yes indeed.

Oga, did not now see that your claim is not true because Jesus said he GIVES the same glory of Hebrews 1:3 to the disciples?

You alleged that Hebrews 1:3 validate your claim. Oga, do you now agree that your claim on Hebrews 1:3 makes the disciples God too as revealed by Jesus Christ@ John 17:7,22,24?
Jesus glory @ Hebrew 1:3= John 17:7,22,24.

Trinity na scam jare

MaxInDHouse:


As a perfect human like Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} Jesus is the radiance of God's glory {John 14:9} had it been that Adam didn't fail in his own test against Satan we won't need Jesus at all on this planet because Adam was made in the likeness of God {Genesis 1:26} that's why God's word said all humans who are supposed to be radiance of God's glory have fallen short of God's glory due to sin inherited from Adam {Romans 3:23} so don't let anyone deceive you with letters Jesus is God's son just as Adam is God's son! Luke 3:38

SIRTee15:


Don't worry about it. MaxInDHouse already explained on your behalf.
Not that I accept his explanation ,but as I said I don't argue about inter Christian doctrinal differences.
I pray the truth finds u.

Janosky:


@ John 17:7,22. Jesus Christ said

7 Now they know that everything I have is a gift from you,
22 “I have given them the glory you gave me, so they may be one as we are one. 24 Father, I want these whom you have given me to be with me where I am. Then they can see all the glory you gave me because you loved me even before the world began!


@ Hebrews 1:1-3, did Paul reference Jesus Christ as a human being?
No, not at all.

Did "God made the Universe through his Son" Jesus when Jesus was a man?
No, not at all.


@ John 17:7,22,is Jesus Christ teaching SirTee that Jesus radiance (reflection) of God's glory is a gift GIVEN to Jesus?
Yes indeed.

Oga, did not now see that your claim is not true because Jesus said he GIVES the same glory of Hebrews 1:3 to the disciples?

You alleged that Hebrews 1:3 validate your claim. Oga, do you now agree that your claim on Hebrews 1:3 makes the disciples God too as revealed by Jesus Christ@ John 17:7,22,24?
Jesus glory @ Hebrew 1:3= John 17:7,22,24.

Trinity na scam jare

SIRTee15:


Even at that he left out the 'reflection of God's glory'
It's nice u standing up for your brother in JW, but he's still not right. Except u telling me the JW bible translation doesn't have that part.

SIRTee15:


U still don't get it. Being a Unitarian Christian is fine by me. Just dont be dishonest.

However read Isaiah 42.8 to have insight into those verse u quoted.

Janosky:


Oga, truth be told ,you are making a FALSE claim on this public forum.

Oga, who revealed Isaiah 42:8 to Isaiah His prophet?

Jehovah God, of course!

@John 7:16 & John 15:15, Isaiah 48:17 Oga who is teaching prophet Isaiah & also teaching Jesus Christ?
Jehovah God ,of course!


Did your own Bible begins & end in Hebrew1:1-3?

Oga, are you ready & humble yourself to accept Jesus Christ teaching to the disciples & to you @John 17:7, 22-24, that God his Father taught him?

That is the point.

Janosky:

My brother Max,
Jesus Christ says his God GIVEN glory has been given to the disciples, @John 17:7,22,24. The disciples resurrected to heaven radiates God's glory that Jesus received & given them.
SirTee says Jesus is the radiance of God's glory @ Hebrews 1:3 means Jesus is God, Jesus says the disciples given same glory @ John17:7,22,24. Therefore,according to SirTee logic, John 17:7,22,24 meaning the disciples be God too. Please let's allow SirTee to delude himself.

SIRTee15:


I don hear u if u no wan hear bible own.
Abi no be Isaiah 42.8 dey make u para.
Being a Unitarian Christian is very much fine by me. Trust me.
Don't waste your energy barking at the wrong tree.

Janosky:


Does your own Bible begins & ends in Isaiah 42:8 ?

Isaiah 42:8 , Jehovah God does NOT share glory with Idols & "anyone else" a reference to Worshippers of idols.
SirTee does NOT believe in John 17:7,22,24,yet claims to follow Jesus Christ.

SIRTee15:


What is shikenah glory.
For context read Exodus 33.17-23

Janosky:

Oga, what are you driving at?

I'd like to hear from you.
No be only me & you dey this thread.

SIRTee15:

God's glory cannot be shared by any man.
If Jesus shared in that glory....that tells u something ....

SIRTee15:


God's glory cannot be shared by any man.
If Jesus shared in that glory....that tells u something ....