Ileke-IdI:

Accuturation is not one sided. What (cultural attire)  is being spread is the subject.
I'm also not on colonial perion acculturation. Modern time acculturation is the main focus.
Abi you sef wan bring Islam and Arab into this?

Do both of us a favour by finding out how the soup spread, plz lol. And the other soups you mentioned are not eaten in the SW, so no influence there. Create another thread for soups.

Then you should be talking about gele. It's way more popular across various tribes than aso-oke. In fact almost all the pictures you posted had gele in them. As for the soups, I can only guess how they spread and yes they eat them in the South-West especially egusi, owo and afang. At least you must have tasted these.

Uyi Iredia:

Then you should be talking about gele. It's way more popular across various tribes than aso-oke. In fact almost all the pictures you posted had gele in them.

Yea, Gele is more popularized. BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHICH ONE IS THE MOST Popularized, but what is slowing being spread across tribes. i'm also more concern about the male aspect.

Laterz, we'll discuss your soup Gotz to go for now.

Lol, why is everyone avoiding Ileke-Ide? from page 1 to 5, only one naira, the other dude came in on 4, LWKMD, very so, OP will have no one to reply her posts, see what too many senseless posts is causing

From some of her previous posts, you could already tell where this was going

odiaero:

Lol, why is everyone avoiding Ileke-Ide? from page 1 to 5, only one naira, the other dude came in on 4, LWKMD, very so, OP will have no one to reply her posts, see what too many senseless posts is causing

Make i join you lauff. LMAO!!

donspony:

From some of her previous posts, you could already tell where this was going 

Where was it going? Towards islamic and arabic confetta?

Ileke-IdI:



1. This is not worn by any Islamic nation, apart from the yorubas
2. This is not a bini influence
3. This is a MODERN Yoruba traditional attire
4. the design, cut, and textile are Yoruba made
5. Those are igbo couples

The only non-igbo item of clothing on the man are the trousers he's wearing instead of wrapper(s).
The top is very igbo/ rivers just made using lace.
Are yorubas the pioneers of clothes made with lace material?

whatz the argument ALL ABOUT

Whatever

stupid thread

I heard the yorubas also created the "British" dress shirt and tie. I believe that one though,but, I don't believe the attire in the first pic has anything to do with yorubas. After all, since when have sahel clothing become yoruba,unless we are saying that they(yorubas) are sahelan? Also, didn't the yorubas modify the sahel african outfit which made the lower part of the upper-body wear wide like a dress? In the first pic there is nothing like that so how could it be yoruba attire.

You guys stole this bandwith, which explains the wastage.

Chyz*:

I heard the yorubas also created the "British" dress shirt and tie. I believe that one though,but, I don't believe the attire in the first pic has anything to do with yorubas. After all, since when have sahel clothing become yoruba,unless we are saying that they(yorubas) are sahelan? Also, didn't the yorubas modify the sahel african outfit which made the lower part of the upper-body wear wide like a dress? In the first pic there is nothing like that so how could it be yoruba attire.

Of course not, even the Arabs invented Iro and buba, complete with gele. Arabs boubou does not look anything like buba and soro, plus agbada, neither do they wear iro and buba!
Where is the evidence of this Arab influence? Who provided the influence for iro and buba? who provided the influence for Aso Oke?
I would rather see an ibo in agbada though, rather than a wrapper and a red cap adorned with feathers.
And please stop tucking in European shirts into wrapper! It's not even funny.

Aigbofa:

What you people have his called modifications to sahel clothing. Even the peter pan cap that you all wear sometimes are modification to european hats that the esquires use to wear(I'm not talking about the hat that looks like a burray that leans to the side either).

Chyz*:

What you people have his called modifications to sahel clothing. Even the peter pan cap that you all wear sometimes are modification to european hats that the esquires use to wear(I'm not talking about the hat that looks like a burray that leans to the side either).

Who told you both could not have evolved independent of each other? This is like saying the Mayans copied the Egyptians in building their pyramids.

This pretty pathetic , I don't really see any celebration of multiculturalism in this thread more of the rest of Nigeria should kiss the ground Yoruba people walk on because without them they would have been na, ked

Instead of celebrating clothing of Nigeria its become another useless tribalism thread.
I already explain that the way the outfit made its way into Nigeria and if anyone should be thanking anyone its should be Arabs because ultimately it was their invention as far as we know.

Anyway, I think if that's the case everyone should go back to the drawing board an improve their own national attire and leave it for those who think they are do you a favor by wearing their own.

No wonder Nigeria is the way it is, people are being complete asse.s over clothing its no surprise everything else is a complete clusterfuck of a nation.

Multiculturalism goes both ways, someone mentioned food another is the use of the word Chineke, Chei, Tufiakwa, etc that is sprinkled in many Nigerians lexicon even if they are not Igbo. Or Pidgin from the SS area, etc. The list is endless.

Crayola1:

This pretty pathetic , I don't really see any celebration of multiculturalism in this thread more of the rest of Nigeria should kiss the ground Yoruba people walk on because without them they would have been na, ked

Instead of celebrating clothing of Nigeria its become another useless tribalism thread.
I already explain that the way the outfit made its way into Nigeria and if anyone should be thanking anyone its should be Arabs because ultimately it was their invention as far as we know.

Anyway, I think if that's the case everyone should go back to the drawing board an improve their own national attire and leave it for those who think they are do you a favor by wearing their own.

No wonder Nigeria is the way it is, people are being complete asse.s over clothing its no surprise everything else is a complete clusterfuck of a nation.

LWKMD

Who made you an authority on Yoruba history and culture!

Aigbofa:

LWKMD

Who made you an authority on Yoruba history and culture!

Well you can make up your "own" history or you can actually research like I did,  with most sources saying that Yorubas most likely adapted the outfit from Hausas. But I know being ignorant is the fashionable thing to be these days, so I'll leave you to your own

Stay breezy

Here's some reading material for your leisure time:

http://www.adireafricantextiles.com/agbadainfo.htm
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0438/is_2_35/ai_94010397/
http://www.bakareweate.com/texts/the%20agbada.pdf
http://books.google.com/books?id=zmKZ7-y4Q3gC&pg=PA100&dq=agbada+clothing&hl=en&ei=zAm6TpWXKMvAtgeezJWqBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=agbada%20clothing&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=r_pUDOWOB7MC&pg=PT64&dq=agbada+clothing&hl=en&ei=zAm6TpWXKMvAtgeezJWqBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=agbada%20clothing&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Q_lCFcabj0MC&pg=PA59&dq=agbada+clothing&hl=en&ei=Qwq6Ts2nJcGTtwfi342iBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=agbada%20clothing&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=1u4EAQAAIAAJ&q=agbada+clothing&dq=agbada+clothing&hl=en&ei=Qwq6Ts2nJcGTtwfi342iBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBDgK

I know on Nairaland making up facts as you go along is seen as a positive trait for the easily amused but I enjoy facts much better.

When you get a chance do ask those people who made them authorities on Yoruba fashion and clothing too, I'm sure the "I'm Yoruba and I know what I'm talking about" line of attack will definitely win you points against scholars and historians

Crayola1:

Well you can make up your "own" history or you can actually research like I did,  with most sources saying that Yorubas most likely adapted the outfit from Hausas. But I know being ignorant is the fashionable thing to be these days, so I'll leave you to your own

Stay breezy

"Most likely adapted"  is not a statement of fact, and a contradiction of your earlier statement. I will pretend I didn't read the last part of your post.

Aigbofa:

"Most likely adapted"  is not a statement of fact, and a contradiction of your earlier statement. I will pretend I didn't read the last part of your post.  

Well I posted the links for you to go through, prove me wrong and show that the agbada was wholly a Yoruba invention  

Well you read it so no need to pretend, if it was speaking to you accept it and work towards improving on your shortcomings. Being ignorant and not knowing you are ignorant is a sad thing, being ignorant and knowing you are ignorant is shameful.

1. Plz leave insults outside of this premises

2. Any questions should be address towards a specific somebody, not made indirect.

This thread is not meant to disrespect or spite anyone or any tribe. We're here to celebrate acculturation.

some-girl:

The only non-igbo item of clothing on the man are the trousers he's wearing instead of wrapper(s).
The top is very igbo/ rivers just made using lace.
Are yorubas the pioneers of clothes made with lace material?

Lace is a typical Yoruba textile.
Pioneers of lace material, I should not think so. But that's the way it seems.

1.Take your own advise
2. If I'm speaking in general would that not be counter productive to direct it to one specific person?
When the thread become geared towards celebration let the rest of us know

Crayola1:

Well I posted the links for you to go through, prove me wrong and show that the agbada was wholly a Yoruba invention

Well, prove to me first that it was not, and while you are it, also tell me how Iro and buba came about. Most likely adapted is not good enough for me.

Aigbofa, you sef like wahala
See me thinking I go come back to better arguments, logic here. Disappointed.

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This article is about the Grand Boubou and its variations.

The Grand Boubou/Bubu is one of the names for a flowing wide sleeved robe worn by men in much of West Africa, and to a lesser extent in North Africa, related to the Dashiki suit[citation needed]. It is known by various names, depending on the ethnic group wearing them: Agbada (Yoruba, Dagomba), Babban Riga (Hausa), K'sa (Tuareg) Grand Boubou (in various Francophone West African countries) and the English term of Gown. The Senegalese Boubou, a variation on the Grand Boubou described below, is also known as the Senegalese kaftan. The female version worn in some communities is also known as a M'boubou or Kaftan.

History
Its origin lies with the clothing worn by the Islamized Tukulor, Mandé and Songhai peoples of the historic 8th Century Takrur and Ghana Empires, and 13th Century Mali and Songhai Empires, (See Bisht and Kaftan for information on these).

The use of the Grand boubou as clothing became widespread throughout the West African region with the migration of semi-nomadic groups such as the Fulani, and traders such as the Dyula and Hausa. Comparing the Grand boubou to the various styles of Arabic Thawb suggests the Grand boubou follows an archaic template to the contemporary male clothing of the Middle East and North Africa.

The Grand boubou is usually decorated with intricate embroidery, and is worn on special religious or ceremonial occasions, for example the two Islamic Eid festivals, weddings, funerals or for attending the Mosque for Friday prayer. It has become the formal attire of many countries in West Africa. Older robes have become family heirlooms passed on from father to son and are worn as status symbols.

The Boubou has female versions in Mali, Senegal, Gambia and Guinea, whereas in other regions of West Africa, the female formal clothing has been the wrapper.

The Grand boubou as a full formal attire consists of 3 pieces of clothing: a pair of tie-up trousers that narrow towards the ankles (known as a Sokoto pronounced "Shokoto" in Yoruba) and a long-sleeved shirt (known as a Dashiki in Yoruba) and a wide, open-stitched sleeveless gown worn over these. They are generally of the same colour, and historically were made from silk, but increased understanding of Islamic restrictions on clothing meant the Grand boubou is now mostly made from cotton and synthetic cloths made to resemble silk.

Method of wearing
There is a set etiquette to wearing the Grand boubou, primarily in place to keep the over-gown above the ankles at any one time, in keeping with Islamic traditions of avoiding impurity (see Najis). This can include folding the open sleeves of the Boubou over one's shoulders, normally done while walking or before sitting down, to ensure the over-gown does not rub against the ground, or by folding/wrapping each side over the other with the hand, narrowing the gowns space toward the ankles (as done by the Tuareg). Thus, it is rare to see the Grand boubou's square shaped gown completely unwrapped.

Popularity
The Grand boubou's use was historically limited to various Islamized Sahelian and Saharan peoples of West Africa, but through increased trade and the spread of Islam throughout the region, had historically gained use among Islamized peoples in the savanna and forested regions of West Africa. Through this, the Grand boubou was historically worn by Chiefs of the Yoruba of Nigeria, Dagomba of Ghana, the Mandinka of the Gambia, the Susu of Guinea and the Temnes of Sierra Leone.

Even today, the Grand boubou is mostly worn by Muslims, although it is gaining popularity as a fashionable form of attire by Christians in West Africa, the African diaspora, and very recently, even among Bantu people in East, Southern and Central Africa.

Gender differences
Although usually a form of men's clothing, women's traditional clothing in much of Sahelian West Africa is of similar construction, though usually worn differently. The Boubou has female versions in Mali, Senegal, Gambia, and Guinea. In some places these are called the M'boubou. In other regions of West Africa, the female formal clothing has been a Boubou variant, called a kaftan, and in other places it is the wrapper and headscarf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boubou_(clothing)

REP S NIG:

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ABEG MAKE I READ AND EDUCATE MYSELF JAREEEEE![/size]

This article is about the Grand Boubou and its variations.

The Grand Boubou/Bubu is one of the names for a flowing wide sleeved robe worn by men in much of West Africa, and to a lesser extent in North Africa, related to the Dashiki suit[citation needed]. It is known by various names, depending on the ethnic group wearing them: Agbada (Yoruba, Dagomba), Babban Riga (Hausa), K'sa (Tuareg) Grand Boubou (in various Francophone West African countries) and the English term of Gown. The Senegalese Boubou, a variation on the Grand Boubou described below, is also known as the Senegalese kaftan. The female version worn in some communities is also known as a M'boubou or Kaftan.

History
Its origin lies with the clothing worn by the Islamized Tukulor, Mandé and Songhai peoples of the historic 8th Century Takrur and Ghana Empires, and 13th Century Mali and Songhai Empires, (See Bisht and Kaftan for information on these).

The use of the Grand boubou as clothing became widespread throughout the West African region with the migration of semi-nomadic groups such as the Fulani, and traders such as the Dyula and Hausa. Comparing the Grand boubou to the various styles of Arabic Thawb suggests the Grand boubou follows an archaic template to the contemporary male clothing of the Middle East and North Africa.

The Grand boubou is usually decorated with intricate embroidery, and is worn on special religious or ceremonial occasions, for example the two Islamic Eid festivals, weddings, funerals or for attending the Mosque for Friday prayer. It has become the formal attire of many countries in West Africa. Older robes have become family heirlooms passed on from father to son and are worn as status symbols.

The Boubou has female versions in Mali, Senegal, Gambia and Guinea, whereas in other regions of West Africa, the female formal clothing has been the wrapper.

The Grand boubou as a full formal attire consists of 3 pieces of clothing: a pair of tie-up trousers that narrow towards the ankles (known as a Sokoto pronounced "Shokoto" in Yoruba) and a long-sleeved shirt (known as a Dashiki in Yoruba) and a wide, open-stitched sleeveless gown worn over these. They are generally of the same colour, and historically were made from silk, but increased understanding of Islamic restrictions on clothing meant the Grand boubou is now mostly made from cotton and synthetic cloths made to resemble silk.

Method of wearing
There is a set etiquette to wearing the Grand boubou, primarily in place to keep the over-gown above the ankles at any one time, in keeping with Islamic traditions of avoiding impurity (see Najis). This can include folding the open sleeves of the Boubou over one's shoulders, normally done while walking or before sitting down, to ensure the over-gown does not rub against the ground, or by folding/wrapping each side over the other with the hand, narrowing the gowns space toward the ankles (as done by the Tuareg). Thus, it is rare to see the Grand boubou's square shaped gown completely unwrapped.

Popularity
The Grand boubou's use was historically limited to various Islamized Sahelian and Saharan peoples of West Africa, but through increased trade and the spread of Islam throughout the region, had historically gained use among Islamized peoples in the savanna and forested regions of West Africa. Through this, the Grand boubou was historically worn by Chiefs of the Yoruba of Nigeria, Dagomba of Ghana, the Mandinka of the Gambia, the Susu of Guinea and the Temnes of Sierra Leone.

Even today, the Grand boubou is mostly worn by Muslims, although it is gaining popularity as a fashionable form of attire by Christians in West Africa, the African diaspora, and very recently, even among Bantu people in East, Southern and Central Africa.

Gender differences
Although usually a form of men's clothing, women's traditional clothing in much of Sahelian West Africa is of similar construction, though usually worn differently. The Boubou has female versions in Mali, Senegal, Gambia, and Guinea. In some places these are called the M'boubou. In other regions of West Africa, the female formal clothing has been a Boubou variant, called a kaftan, and in other places it is the wrapper and headscarf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boubou_(clothing)

Could you increase your font? 

What was the bolded suposed to prove since you're quite educated yourself?

@Uyi Iredia

Back to the soup. . . .

Which soup skills did Yorubas learn from the SS?

^ Ageb, go siddon joor, you are a daft illiterate. Read the article. . . . .it speaks for itself!

Darrrmn! Some people DAFT OOOOOOO!

REP S NIG:

^ Ageb, go siddon joor, you are a daft illiterate. Read the article. . . . .it speaks for itself!

Darrrmn! Some people DAFT OOOOOOO!

Like I thought. Next!

Ileke-IdI:

@Uyi Iredia

Back to the soup. . . .

Which soup skills did Yorubas learn from the SS?

What of Edikang Ikong ?

REP S NIG:

^ Ageb, go siddon joor, you are a daft illiterate. Read the article. . . . .it speaks for itself!

Darrrmn! Some people DAFT OOOOOOO!

Never argue with a bytch who has 365 days of PMS. 366 including leap year.