Bidam: No one is confused here except you and the JW's.
You are the one who is looking and never seeing. I see God the Son very much in agreement with God the father. God the Son is the visible and tangible REALITY of God the Father cos no Man has seen or can see God.

I love scripture because they are in perfect harmony,scripture interpret scripture and no prophecy of scripture is in isolation and of PRIVATE interpretation. The same God( Phil 2:6) who took the form of a servant(Phil 2:7) also took the form of a prophet, Apostle and a High priest( heb 3:1)...so no be today we see am for bible.

As far is this doctrine is concerned, it is not subject to the whims and cunningly devise fables of your Jw organization. Rev 3:12 makes it even more clearer. A Son cannot be greater than is Father. A Son is as much equal and eternal just as His Father is.

Bidam: No one is confused here except you and the JW's.

You are the one who is looking and never seeing. I see God the Son very much in agreement with God the father. God the Son is the visible and tangible REALITY of God the Father cos no Man has seen or can see God.

I love scripture because they are in perfect harmony,scripture interpret scripture and no prophecy of scripture is in isolation and of PRIVATE interpretation. The same God( Phil 2:6) who took the form of a servant(Phil 2:7) also took the form of a prophet, Apostle and a High priest( heb 3:1)...so no be today we see am for bible.

As far is this doctrine is concerned, it is not subject to the whims and cunningly devise fables of your Jw organization. Rev 3:12 makes it even more clearer. A Son cannot be greater than is Father. A Son is as much equal and eternal just as His Father is.

Boomark: make i expose your lies and confusion. :p


Lies and confusion and 'dodgenalism'. You for tell us how many persons spoke through the prophets and through Jesus, make we see how it supports trinity instead of making out of context comments. Son of God was never called God the Son by those who knew him better than you. That is man made abi Bidam made.

This man dodged Acts 3:13 because he is not honest. The God of all our ancestors na how many persons? I believe trinitarians should read the Old testament again before suggesting that God CHANGED into 3 persons in new testament. As for the Philippians you quoted, read Phil 2:5. Can you boldly tell us if he had the glory he was given in v9 before he became flesh?

Hahaha! My stronghold. I know you will always denounce trinity or make it weak when it come to Rev 3:12. At least you have confessed that the Father is the Almighty, greater than all. Even as all power was given to our Lord Jesus. You are changing. Am very happy for you, but you are still very much confused.

"A Son cannot be greater than is Father. A Son is as much equal and eternal just as His Father is."

Did you notice your confusion up there?
Trinity is one of the things you have to leave for the catholic. Do you another of my stronghold? It is about the GODHEAD. This one is another no-go-area for trinitarians.
SMH!!.

frosbel: Hosea 11:9 ...For I am God , and not man...

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man , that he should lie, nor a son of man…

Bidam: The word(God) became flesh.

You can't beat that scripture, no matter your twists and turns.

Freksy:

No scripture says the almighty became flesh.

Bidam: Stick to what i said.Don't misquote me.I said the Word(God) John 1 became flesh.14.

Bidam: The word(God) became flesh.

You can't beat that scripture, no matter your twists and turns.

Gombs: JWs oooo!

Bidam: Don't mind them. They omitted THE WORD WAS GOD

Gombs:

That John 1v1 in the NWT... Na that one pain me pass, of all the remixing of the bible they did, na John 1v1 pain me pass.

Bidam: No confusion and lie here oga...We do not interpret scripture using human wisdom but by the help of the Holy Spirit...comparing scripture with scripture.Actually He is God the Son.Isaiah said so:
For unto us a child is born, unto us a SON is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.Isaiah 9:6

Christ was always there concealed in the old and revealed in the new.It ain't my fault if JW's can't see HIM.It might do you good to look at Paul's statement i quoted once again which are in perfect harmony with peter's.Except you are telling us Paul is a liar here.

And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.1 Corinthians 10:4.

OT scripture refer to this ROCK as God.

"Thou art my Father, my God, and the Rock of my salvation." (Psalm 89:26 RSV)


"There is none Holy like The Lord, there is none besides Thee; there is no Rock like our God." (1 Samuel 2:2 RSV)

Me denounce trinity which is the foundation of my belief.Are you sic?,can you show me where my statement denounce trinity or make it weak This is your false assumption not mine. I never said such above. I said the son is co-equal and co-eternal with the father. If e like make e pain you.
Hmmn..i can see you trying hard to strike out an eternal scriptural truth.
Rather, you are the one confused here pal, You need to take more bible lessons.

Boomark:

What you believe in lacks cohesion. I want to see where you got "God the Son." I hope you believe Mary is the "mother of God," Joseph, "father of God," Heli, Grandfather of God? How many persons are in that God? The word "God" is a title/name. At least you said it yourself that the Almighty God(the Father) is greater than the Mighty God(Son). The spirit knows and understands English, men don't.

I hate it when i ask, "what is the colour of an Elephant?" and someone will start telling me, "the colour of a 'Nama' is white, it has elephant's tail..." I hate dishonesty. Let me ask again, when he was the Rock mass, 1Cor 10:4, did he possess the glory and exaltation he was give in Phil 2:9-10? Or are you saying, the glory of our God was very low.

You don't even understand the definition of trinity. You cannot say the Father GREATER than the Son and still add that the Son is CO-EQUAL AND co-eternal with the Father. Co-Equal in what way? Don't you know that all things came from the Father. The word and even the breath(spirit) in me? Does that make me His equal or co-equal with him? You need to dump everything you know and start afresh with us.

Bidam: Singing...My favorite song

Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee;
Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessèd Trinity!

Holy, holy, holy! All the saints adore Thee,
Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea;
Cherubim and seraphim falling down before Thee,
Who was, and is, and evermore shall be.

Holy, holy, holy! though the darkness hide Thee,
Though the eye of sinful man Thy glory may not see;
Only Thou art holy; there is none beside Thee,
Perfect in power, in love, and purity.

Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
All Thy works shall praise Thy Name, in earth, and sky, and sea;
Holy, holy, holy; merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessèd Trinity!

Bidam: I never said the bold, you implied it.

Ofcos the devil hates truth, it is no surprise you hate truth.


Ofcos i do.

This is what the Trinity means in short form

1. God is One
2. The Father is God
3. The Son is God
4. The Holy Spirit is God
5. The Father is not the Son
6. The Father is not the Holy Spirit
7. The Son is not the Father
8. The Son is not the Holy Spirit
9. The Holy Spirit is not the Son
10. The Holy Spirit is not the Father
11. God is one being and three persons.

Boomark:

hahaha! E be like you don dey run as i expected? Are you now denying that you said, "A Son can never be greater than the Father?" Are they Co-equal in what sense? In all things?

The Catholics invented "God the Son," Mary is the mother of God. Heli should be the grand father of God, David is the great great grand father of God. You must accept it all, unless you don't understand what you believe in.

I can see 2, 3, 4,= 3 different Gods= 1 God(may be 1 name ).

Go and answer my questions in my previous post cos i now want to know how i hate the truth. You Must answer my questions and I, yours, truthfully, step by step or you Must count yourself an ally of the devil.

That song will not ease the tension. "God in 3 person" was composed by men. It is not found in the scripture. Answer my questions.

I hate it when i ask, "what is the
colour of an Elephant?" and
someone will start telling me, "the
colour of a 'Nama' is white, it has
elephant's tail..." I hate dishonesty.
Let me ask again, when he was the
Rock mass, 1Cor 10:4, did he
possess the glory and exaltation he
was give in Phil 2:9-10? Or are you
saying, the glory of our God was
very low then?

Boomark: ^^

blind bidam number 1. You did not answer this bolded question. I will pick other ones after this one. Don't give an irrelevant Answer, Please. I want to learn.

frosbel: ^^^


Arguing with the blind is a waste of time, what he needs first is the true Light that illuminates the human heart with the truth.

Bidam: I did answer. You were blind to see it. I said it was a role Jesus as God the SON, WHO IS THE WORD OF GOD IN HEAVEN gladly volunteered to do. ALL(FATHER,SON,HOLY GHOST) are co-equal and co-eternal.

Boomark:



Chei!! This man is blindly blinded. Smh!!!

Ok bidam. Before "God the SON, WHO IS THE WORD OF GOD IN HEAVEN gladly volunteered to take up that role"
did he
possess the glory and
exaltation he
was give in Phil 2:9-10? Or
are you
saying, the glory of our God
was
very low then?

I hope you know the answer to my question is not "co-equal". And stop behaving as you no longer understand English. Please answer the bolded question.

Jesus Christ: The Man

Scripture shows that Jesus Christ is a true human being. It is clear from the verses below that he was indeed a man.

Acts 2:22
“Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.

Acts 2:23
This man was handed over to you by God’s set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross.

Acts 17:31
For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead.”

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

Romans 5:15
But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man (Adam) how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!

The Greek word for “man” in these verses is anthropos.

The Greek word anthropos means “a human being, whether male or female, generically, to include all human individuals, to distinguish man from beings of a different race or order.”

Anthropos is used to describe Adam, the first man. In the same verse (Romans 5:15) it is used to describe Jesus Christ. If words mean anything, one must believe that Jesus Christ was a flesh and blood human being just like Adam.

On the other hand, Scripture says “God is not a man.”
Numbers 23:19

God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man…
Numbers 23:19 (NRSV)

God is not a human being, that he should lie, or a mortal…
Hosea 11:9

For I am God, a[b]nd not man[/b]– the Holy One among you.

Jesus Christ is a man. He is the only man who is our Savior, our Redeemer, our Mediator, our Lord, our constant Companion, our Best Friend, our Big Brother, the Light of our lives, our Peace, our Joy, and our Mentor in the art of faith.

He is the Lover of our souls, and that is why we love him and confess him as Lord (Rom. 10:9).

http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/articles/jesus-christ/jesus-christ-the-man

Bidam: ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth that is who you are...Yes Christ possess all.Any objections?