Bidam: I now fully understand the reason why my "christian friends" attack threads that says accept the deity of Christ as God. They tend to boil with self righteous indignation and hypocrisy any time they hear the phrase "JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY".

Isn't it rather funny that am not the one saying it but the bible. This thread is not meant to attack any religious group but to use the bible as our clear and perfect guide concerning the DEITY OF JESUS CHRIST.


This Christian group attack us with statements like trinitarians, modal ism(first time i dey hear this one sha) etc...

You can't have it both ways! it is either you accept the deity of CHRIST as proved from scriptures or He is some kind of angel(servant). you can't talk out of both side of your mouth. here is an excerpts from one of their false prophetess.

What Ellen G. White (EGW) writes in her books, is to be believed as truth from God's throne by Seventh-day Adventist Church members. Is it true that "the man Christ Jesus was not Lord God Almighty"?

EGW: "But although Christ's glory was for a time veiled and eclipsed by His assuming humanity, yet He did not cease to be God when He became man...The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty, yet Christ and the Father are one." SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 5, p.1129.

Jesus "did not cease to be God when he became man," and "that Christ and the Father are one," which are true statements about the deity of God. It is also true that the Father is the Lord God Almighty, but it is a false statement to say, "that Jesus is not the Lord God Almighty."

Why would God give Ellen a false statement about himself? The truth is that God did not reveal this, as God does not lie. The answer simply is this; Ellen G. White is a false prophet.



Does It Make a Difference?

Because of the authority given Ellen G. White by the Seventh -day Adventist Church, many that read her statement that "the man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty" will regard it as truth. What does this statement do to the deity of Christ? It says that the Father and Son are not really equal in their deity and that the Father is the Lord God Almighty and Christ is somewhat of a lesser God.



This is very similar to the beliefs of the Jehovah's Witnesses who believe that Jesus Christ is not God equal to the Father, and regard him as just "a god " (with a small g). This is found in their New World Translation of John 1:1.The Witnesses also believe that Jesus is a mighty god and Jehovah is the Lord God Almighty. This gives Ellen G. White, the SDA Church and the Jehovah's Witness two Gods, one that is Almighty and one that is not as Almighty.


The Truth[color=#000099][/color]

Jesus Christ is called the Lord God Almighty, and the Alpha and Omega, Rev. 1:8, the same as the Father is called the Lord God Almighty and the Alpha and Omega. Rev. 21:5,6.

Almighty applies to Christ, from the Greek word "pantokrator," which means all-ruling, Almighty, Omnipotent.

The Savior is equal to the Father, Col 2:9 (NIV) For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form...

frosbel: The Seventh Day Adventists, is just one of over 40,000 worldwide denominations.

Can you tell me why the leader of this church is a false prophet , what about the leaders of the other 40,000 denominations ? Could they not be false prophets.

While I am not in 100% agreement with this sect , especially their Sabbath doctrine and the Jesus being an Angel issue , they are 90% more accurate in their teachings than most of your mushroom pastor worshiping churches.

I will not discuss the Trinity , this has been over flogged for your information. If you want to preach 3 gods to Muslims and others , while making a comedy of Christianity , that's your prerogative.

I leave you with this small titbit.

"This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross.But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him." - Acts 2;23-24

All you guys are doing is assisting the Catholic church with their poisoning of the simple truth.

i.chuka:
^^^
Nice,brief and streight to the point.

[quote author=Bidam][b]thank God for the research you made concerning the 40,000 false doctrines in the Church, that means we really have alot to do...not only to save the unsaved thereby bringing men to the knowledge of the TRUTH but also correct errors that has crept into the Church by the sleight deceitful cunning of these 40,000 false prophets( I hope you remember elijah and the prophets of baal).

frosbel: The Seventh Day Adventists, is just one of over 40,000 worldwide denominations.

Can you tell me why the leader of this church is a false prophet , what about the leaders of the other 40,000 denominations ? Could they not be false prophets.

While I am not in 100% agreement with this sect , especially their Sabbath doctrine and the Jesus being an Angel issue , they are 90% more accurate in their teachings than most of your mushroom pastor worshiping churches.

I will not discuss the Trinity , this has been over flogged for your information. If you want to preach 3 gods to Muslims and others , while making a comedy of Christianity , that's your prerogative.

I leave you with this small titbit.

"This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross.But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him." - Acts 2;23-24

All you guys are doing is assisting the Catholic church with their poisoning of the simple truth.

truthislight: " This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days. And the high priest arose, and said unto him, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee?
"But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I implore thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the "Son of God".

"Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power(God) , and coming in the clouds of heaven. " (Matthew 26:61-64)

1. the Jews never thought him to be almighty God.

2. Jesus did not say so even when put under oath.

You are on your own.

plappville: If Jesus want us to know he was the God of the univers, He would have said it. It wasn't difficult for him to say he was the son of God. Because thats what he is. Anyone adding to this, ma him sabi. The way am seeing things. It looks like, when you reject the trinity , you becomes a SDA OR JWS. This is a wrong way to think. There secrets behind this doctrine. Na so i talk my own reach oo..this debate no go ever get ending.

Fr0sbel:

The institutionalized Babylon church and their mother ( you know who ) has a tendency to paint anyone who does not agree with them as a cult.

But , when we revisit the definition of cult, they are actually the cult members, worshiping MEN and assisting them with the building of their kingdoms.

Hypocrites, all of them !!

Bidam: The fact is Jesus sat down forever as God with all power and authority.

plappville: If Jesus want us to know he was the God of the univers, He would have said it. It wasn't difficult for him to say he was the son of God. Because thats what he is. Anyone adding to this, ma him sabi. The way am seeing things. It looks like, when you reject the trinity , you becomes a SDA OR JWS. This is a wrong way to think. There secrets behind this doctrine. Na so i talk my own reach oo..this debate no go ever get ending.

Bidam:

Jesus as every son does inherited his name from his father. The father's name is Jesus."

Bidam:
"Heb 1:4
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Jesus as every son does inherited his name from his father. The father's name is Jesus."

ijawkid:

When you make that statement up there it irks me.....have you not been reading 1 corinthians 15:24-28??.....eh BIDAM??....I tire for you o........
________________________________
1 Corinthians 15:24-28
New International Version (NIV)
24 Then the end will come, when he hands over
the kingdom to God the Father after he has
destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
25 For he must reign until he has put all his
enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to
be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put
everything under his feet.”[a] Now when it
says that “everything” has been put under him,
it is clear that this does not include God
himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son
himself will be made subject to him who put
everything under him, so that God may be all in
all.
______________________________

How can be BIDAM after coming across scriptures like the one just quoted say that Christ sat forever as God with all power and authority......

BIDAM why??......why??....I'll keep asking you......

ijawkid:

When you make that statement up there it irks me.....have you not been reading 1 corinthians 15:24-28??.....eh BIDAM??....I tire for you o........
________________________________
1 Corinthians 15:24-28
New International Version (NIV)
24 Then the end will come, when he hands over
the kingdom to God the Father after he has
destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
25 For he must reign until he has put all his
enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to
be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put
everything under his feet.”[a] Now when it
says that “everything” has been put under him,
it is clear that this does not include God
himself, who put everything under Christ.
28 When he has done this, then the Son
himself will be made subject to him who put
everything under him, so that God may be all in
all.
______________________________

How can be BIDAM after coming across scriptures like the one just quoted say that Christ sat forever as God with all power and authority......

BIDAM why??......why??....I'll keep asking you......

plappville:
Really ?? Please dig deeper and explain am learning a new thing here....

Bidam:

@emboldened..try comparing the scripture you quote in 1 Corinthians 15:28 ►

New International Version (©1984)
When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. and

Colossians 3:11

New International Version (©1984)
Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.[/b]This goes to show that Christ is not almost all,[b] but all in all.

enilove: [b]God is title ,that was why God Almighty gave His name to Moses.He did not say "My name is God"Jesus Christ too has a name,his was not named God. You can see that the name God gave to Moses is different from Jesus's name.
They are two different parsonalities but united in purpose or oneness in purpose ,principles and everyother thing.
A man and his wife are one.but two people if you remove marriage.
Jesus christ said I and my father are one.When he was baptised the voice came from heaven saying "this is my beloved son in whom am well pleased"
Jesus christ kept saying "my father in heaven".when he was crucified he told the thief on his right hand that he would be with his father in heaven.More than 50 times in the bible the Lord Jesus Christ said MY FATHER.
Before raising up Lazarus from the dead , he prayed to his father in heaven.You can not tell me that he was praying to himself .

Philipians2:9 says "God has highly exalted Jesus Christ and given him a name that is above all names"
This means God the father is existing and different from Jesus His son.
Gen.41:44 Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I am Pharaoh,without thee shall no man lift up his hands or foot in the land of Egypt.verse 55 says when there was famine in the land the people cried to Pharoah for bread,which Pharaoh gave unto them by telling them to go and meet Joseph.Likewise we ask God for all thing through our Lord Jesus Christ.

.Joseph was given all the power in Egypt but not above Pharaoh.
When you read further that book of revelation chpter1:18 Jesus christ says "I am he that liveth and was dead and behold ,I am alive for evermore.
From here Jesus Christ gave messages to John for the 7 churches from Chapter 1to chapter 3 .In chapter 3:12 Jesus said he that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and will write upon him the name of my God.This means Jesus has a God.verse 14 Jesus Christ says that he is the beginning of the creation of God.Likewise revelation 3:21 Jesus testifies that "I am set down with my father on the throne.
The above was the complete or conclusion of message given by Jesus to John.Confirming that God is on the throne.

Joseph was ruling the people of Egypt but not ruling Pharaoh that gave him the authority and one of his chariots to ride on. He also said every Egyptian must bow their knee to Joseph.Likewise in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ every knee must bow.But not the knee of his Father Almighty God.
It is written for God so love the world that he gave His only begotten son ,that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but ,but have everlasting life.[/b]

Bidam: Gabriel tells Zechariah not only that he'll have a son, but that the son should have a specific name: John. Later, when Zechariah faithfully chooses that name for his son rather than following other people's advice to name his son after himself, he finally demonstrates faith in Gabriel's message, and God restores Zechariah's ability to speak that Gabriel had temporarily taken away.(Luke 1 :59). now compare our lord and Savior prophecy in Isaiah 7:14.

New International Version (©1984)
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
New Living Translation (©2007)
All right then, the Lord himself will give you the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel (which means 'God is with us')

Matthew 1:23 ►

New International Version (©1984)
"The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"--which means, "God with us."
New Living Translation (©2007)
"Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel, which means 'God is with us.'"
So here it is, i believe you guys can do the maths...immanuel = Jesus(God in flesh)= God. even a simple child can catch this revelation na...haba!!!.. because His Name is called Jesus doesn't negate the fact that He is not Immanuel(God with us)..even many people in some parts of the world bear two or more names na..Now this is the icing on the cake o. look at this :Does the Bible tell us that Christ to be called the Mighty God? Yes.



Isa 9:6 (NIV) For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.



Isaiah tells us that Jesus is to be called the Mighty God. God in Hebrew means, 410. 'el, ale; short. from H352; strength; as adj. mighty; espec. the Almighty deity, power, strong. Comp. names in "-el." Strong's Dictionary.


This definition describes Jesus. We find the definition Almighty, meaning Omnipotent, and God, as meaning Almighty deity. On this evidence alone Jesus can be called Almighty God.

ijawkid:

lol....BIDAM has just told us that all the persons bearing IMMANUEL today are also the almighty GOD.... ...i don laugh my belle full.....

please how about persons who answered names like Eli′athah??.....Eli′athah means "God Has Come'".........what about the name JEHU??...Jehu means “Jehovah Is He”..................

none of these names imply that the possessor was himself God........the name IMMANEUL is not an exception......i have cousins and freinds that bear the name IMMANUEL and they are not the almighty GOD.....

BIDAM oooooooooo...........Jesus is the son,servant,high priest,and messenger of the almighty GOD........

This means God the father is existing and different from Jesus His son.

You are correct in saying that the book of revelation called Jesus Almighty God and also the Alpha and the Omega. Infact it was Jesus christ himself that gave that testimony ,and we know Jesus can not lie or does not lie.Jesus is actually Alpha and Omega?