truthislight:



Guy, what do you smoke ?
Please, pass it over, i need to take it to the lab for testing

Ofcos we all know you resort to insults when you can't reason the word of God by faith. keep your delusions to your self don't spread it.

truthislight:

Did you see that ^ on red ?

It qualifies what was happening at Genesis > that God was creating, was working.

Yawns. So the word was God wasn't creating abi? to your reasoning He was idle?

Bidam: We don't have two LORDS only one LORD.Jesus is the same,yesterday,today and forever.

You probably did not see my response very well. That reply doesnt affect this at all.

that rev. 1:8 is not talking of Jesus. the context seem to imply
that, but the words "lord God" combined together is usually used
of God alone. that is why some translation view this as alluding to
the "OT" verse. and use the divine name in that verse.

Bidam: If you think the bible appeals to your logic and human reasoning, then it's high time you join the atheist league. Last time i checked they believe everything about Jesus is illogical and nonsensical.
"In Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form". —Colossians 2:9

So an atheist can conquer you and make you say things a Christian would never say, when you said that:
1 that the exaltation(lifting up to a higher level) of our Lord is just a Role which never change his status(due to co-equality).
2 that the making of Jesus, "Lord of the living and the dead, Acts 2:36, Rom 14:9" by God after his death and resurrection should be regarded as God's foolishness. That we should allow God to do reasoning behind that exaltation just because You want to maintain your own SUPER reason, that Jesus has been Lord and co-equal with God from the beginning.
3 that Jesus has been sitting at the right hand of the Father, Ps 110:1 (you did not know this was a prophecy and that BEFORE HE WAS CALLED TO SIT AT THE RIGHT HAND, HE WAS NOT ACTUALLY SITTING THERE).

Am not tempting you to say these things but just to show you that trinity is against the will of God.

I will be back to answer your question on colossians 2:9. I will also ask you little little questions as we proceed and don't make the will of God look like foolishness. Never will it be so.

Bidam: Bro.. i went on a search, i didn't just arrive there in one day.Keep searching the word of God.

This is what the bible says about God and i can bring scriptures to validates all these points here.

1.The Father is God.
2.The Son is God.
3.The Father is not the Holy Spirit.
4.The Holy Spirit is God.
5.The son is not the Holy Spirit.

All these points are scriptural proofs which can't be debunked by you and other folks till thy kingdom come because it is clearly stated in scriptures.Infact i make bold to say here that it is the concept of the unitarian God that is illogical.Frosbel use to argue here that God is just a spirit,well if God is just a spirit he will be no greater than the angels since that is all the angels are,and lucifer will have a chance in the war in heaven if God is only a spirit.

I believe God to be more than just a spirit since he created all the angels and that was why i said the infinite God is beyond what our finite minds can grasp.

All monotheistic religions claim that God is all-knowing(omniscient). If God knows all He must be able to see everything and then He must be everywhere all at once which makes God omnipresence.Now the meat of the gist is that if God is omnipresent he will have to be greater than our 3 dimensional world because a 3 dimensional being can never be omnipresent.In other words God is hyper dimensional or infinitely dimensional,let's see what prophet Isaiah has to say about this.

Isaiah 40:28 (KJV)

28 Hast thou not known? Hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? There is no searching of His understanding.


Isaiah 40:28 (CEB)

28 Don’t you know? Haven’t you heard?
The Lord is the everlasting God,
the creator of the ends of the earth.
He doesn’t grow tired or weary.
His understanding is beyond human reach,
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[color=#990000]Isaiah 40:28

28 Surely you know the truth.
Surely you have heard.
The Lord is the God who lives forever!
He created all the faraway places on earth.
He does not get tired and weary.
You cannot learn all he knows.

The truth is since we are 3 dimensional beings we have a limit in our understanding logically about a hyper dimensional being such as God.For example a two dimensional world will never understand that a square can be made like a cube,it will only look like a sqaure to him no matter where it changes so he has to trust and believe the explanations of someone living in a 3 dimensional world that the square is actually a cube.And so is God attributes in hyper dimensional terms according to scriptures,Paul understood it and that was why he said the multifaceted and multidimensional wisdom of God which the age does not know neither could it comprehend it.The concept of trinity by bible scholars of old is hence the perfect explanations of the attributes of God as a hyper dimensional idea that can be explainable to us.Thanks and God bless.

1. How did you arrive at that belief that you are a 3 dimentional being?

2. since, finite mind cant understand him, how do you know he is a trinity? Do you have an infinite mind?

3. Are you advocating polytheism?

Bidam: Thanks bro... these folks are stiff-necked and rebellious just like the Israelite. They have been brainwashed by Jw's doctrines. I pray God in His infinite mercy doesn't give up on them but delivers them.Kenneth Hagin once said the most difficult spirit to cast out is religious spirits.God help us.

let me show you that the same can be said of you. this bidam is stiff-necked and rebellious just like the Israelite. he has been brainwashed by pagan doctrines. I pray God in His infinite mercy doesn't give up on him but delivers him.Kenneth Hagin once said the most difficult spirit to cast out is religious spirits.God help us.

Bidam: John 1:1 cancels your assertion that this man is not God.

he is a god, NOT God almighty.

JMAN05:

You probably did not see my response very well. That reply doesnt affect this at all.

that rev. 1:8 is not talking of Jesus. the context seem to imply
that, but the words "lord God" combined together is usually used
of God alone. that is why some translation view this as alluding to
the "OT" verse. and use the divine name in that verse.

I did. And the context says that and not imply as you would erroneously have us believe.Jesus is Alpha and Omega.

Boomark:

So an atheist can conquer you and make you say things a Christian would never say.

In an attempt to justify you error, you are also making a fool of yourself here.
Atheist don't believe God exist, so why shold they conquer me in the first place We preach Christ to them and the Holy Ghost( God) does the convicting. Here is another scripture concerning prophecy,i hope it makes you sweat at cold nights.

The voice of him that cries in the wilderness, Prepare you the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our GOD. (Isaiah 40:3).

JMAN05:

he is a god, NOT God almighty.

according to jw bible.

JMAN05:

1. How did you arrive at that belief that you are a 3 dimentional being?

2. since, finite mind cant understand him, how do you know he is a trinity? Do you have an infinite mind?

3. Are you advocating polytheism?

1. Is foolish..so what are you? Are u one or 2 dimensional

2. Is also foolish.Do you also have an infinite mind?Can you quantify God with your small brain?

3. Is also foolish..The one who advocates polythesim is you because you always say there are gods NOT GOD..you mentioned Jesus,angels and idols in the ranks of gods in you antitrinity posts all over nairaland.

JMAN05:

let me show you that the same can be said of you. this bidam is stiff-necked and rebellious just like the Israelite. he has been brainwashed by pagan doctrines. I pray God in His infinite mercy doesn't give up on him but delivers him.Kenneth Hagin once said the most difficult spirit to cast out is religious spirits.God help us.

are u in the habit of plagiarizing peoples statement

Maybe you shouldn't be taken seriously here since all you do is copy paste job.

JMAN05:

let me show you that the same can be said of you. this bidam is stiff-necked and rebellious just like the Israelite. [size=14pt]he has been brainwashed by pagan doctrines.[/size] I pray God in His infinite mercy doesn't give up on him but delivers him.Kenneth Hagin once said the most difficult spirit to cast out is religious spirits.God help us.

Pls a question about that bolded part, what will happen to those who practise this doctrine?

Jman is not the Judge of Man.

Emusan:

Pls a question about that bolded part, what will happen to those who practise this doctrine?

but this is what God says in the bible:

"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the 'truth'." (1 Timothy 2:3-4).
............

That ^ is what God the altimate judge of all men says.

It is God's will that people get to "know the 'truth' to be saved".

truthislight: Jman is not the Judge of Man.



but this is what God says in the bible:

"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the 'truth'." (1 Timothy 2:3-4).
............

That ^ is what God the altimate judge of all men says.

It is God's will that people get to "know the 'truth' to be saved".

How doest this thrash answer my question?

Emusan:

Pls a question about that bolded part, what will happen to those who practise this doctrine?

Lol..He shot himself in the foot in an attempt to be wise. I don't think he will be able to answer that question because he believes hell doesn't exist.A doctrine of universalism.SMH!

Emusan:

How doest this thrashtrash answer my question?

Yeah Right!

The Bible is trash.

How emotions blinds people.

"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." (1 Timothy 2:3-4).

Bidam: Lol..He shot himself in the foot.

in an attempt to be wise. I don't think he will be able to answer that question

Hmmmmm! Did i ?

How ? Where ? When ? Smh for pastors.

*Birds of the same feather flocks togather*

Bidam:

Like i said in my earlier post to boomark, THEY ARE NOT SEPARATE ENTITIES but distinct personalities and that is why Jesus is called God the Son.

To start with Jesus is not called "God the Son" anywhere in the Bible.

The convolution you have enveloped yourself - "NOT SEPARATE ENTITIES but distinct personalities" - is what happens in not accepting the Bible's simple clear truths.

Too many Bible verses point to Christ being a different person from the Father, God Almighty, and serving as a messenger to God - 'Father knows some things, Son doesn't. Father sent Son to die. Father raises Son from death. Father grants Son authority. Father created Son. Father sits on throne, Son sits on the right hand, Son prays to Father,etc. Are there instances where the Son plays roles that suggest superiority or even equality with Father? Why are the roles never reversed?"

Here's one for you to ponder on:

[b]Heb 5:1-10 ---- Every high priest is selected from among the people and is appointed to represent the people in matters related to God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and are going astray, since he himself is subject to weakness. This is why he has to offer sacrifices for his own sins, as well as for the sins of the people. And no one takes this honor on himself, but he receives it when called by God, just as Aaron was. In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father.” And he says in another place, “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek. [/b]

Christ did not make himself priest - God made him one, like he made Aaron. And you know what a priest does - "represent the people in matters related to God".

Why did God make Christ priest? "...because of his reverent submission. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered .... "

And you think Christ is the same Almighty God he serves as priest for, abi?

Christ is exalted indeed, being the 2nd highest authority in the universe - the Almighty God Jehovah is the only one above and superior to Christ.

Christ gives us the perfect example of how to be obedient to God Almighty.

This person summed it up, a while back:

Oahray: Hehehehe.... Funny thread. Trinitarians, una funny sha. Its only Trinitarians that would say:
.
(1) A person (Jesus) can be equal to his God (John 17:20).
.
(2) The Father is greater than the Son (John 14:28), yet they are equal.
.
(3) The Father gives the Son authority, and the Son subjects himself to God (1 Cor 15:27,28), yet they are equal.
.
(4) The Father is the head of the Son (1 Cor 11:3), yet they are equal.
.
(5) The Father's will dominates that of the son (Luke 22:42), yet they are equal.
.
(6) The Father sent the Son (John 17:3), but they are equal.
.
(7) The Son cannot speak of his own originality but what the father tells him (John 7:17; 14:10), yet they are equal.
.
(8.) The Father gave the Son a revelation (Rev 1:1), yet they equal.
.
(9) The Father resurrected the Son (2 Cor 4:14), yet they are equal.
.
(10) The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative (John 5:19) but does what he beholds the Father doing, yet he is equal to the father anyway.
.
(11) The Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD and Jesus is the one He sent (John 17:3), yet they are equal.
.
(12) Jesus doesnt have the power to grant the sitting at his right or left, but his Father does (Matt 20:20-23), yet they are equal.
.
(13) Blasphemy against the Son will be forgiven but blasphemy against the holy spirit will not be forgiven (Matt 12:31,32), yet they are the same.
.
I don tire to cite instances sef... Its endless. The Bible quashes the pagan doctrine everywhere you go.
.
When people who refuse to think, have no sensible answers to the questions posed to them from the gaping holes of that pagan doctrine, they would say God is a mystery. Yet Jesus said knowledge of God and (Jesus) himself would mean life (John 17:3).
.
Trinitarians, I smh for una sha.

TroGunn:

To start with Jesus is not called "God the Son" anywhere in the Bible.

The convolution you have enveloped yourself - "NOT SEPARATE ENTITIES but distinct personalities" - is what happens in not accepting the Bible's simple clear truths.

Too many Bible verses point to Christ being a different person from the Father, God Almighty, and serving as a messenger to God - 'Father knows some things, Son doesn't. Father sent Son to die. Father raises Son from death. Father grants Son authority. Father created Son. Father sits on throne, Son sits on the right hand, Son prays to Father,etc. Are there instances where the Son plays roles that suggest superiority or even equality with Father? Why are the roles never reversed?"

Here's one for you to ponder on:

[b]Heb 5:1-10 ---- Every high priest is selected from among the people and is appointed to represent the people in matters related to God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and are going astray, since he himself is subject to weakness. This is why he has to offer sacrifices for his own sins, as well as for the sins of the people. And no one takes this honor on himself, but he receives it when called by God, just as Aaron was. In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father.” And he says in another place, “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek. [/b]

Christ did not make himself priest - God made him one, like he made Aaron. And you know what a priest does - "represent the people in matters related to God".

Why did God make Christ priest? "...because of his reverent submission. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered .... "

And you think Christ is the same Almighty God he serves as priest for, abi?

Christ is exalted indeed, being the 2nd highest authority in the universe - the Almighty God Jehovah is the only one above and superior to Christ.

Christ gives us the perfect example of how to be obedient to God Almighty.

There is nothing like second highest authority in the universe in the bible..Those are you errors and it is rather a shame that men can descend so low to paint a doctrine that it's not only unscriptural but demonic.God is one and He doesn't have second in command.As if He is going to be sick or die and the second should take over like they do in the secular world.

That being said the scripture in Hebrew you quoted in no way diminsh the authencity of Jesus as God. Like i said He played so many roles.1. High priest.2.prophet.3 Apostle. 4.teacher.5.Lamb 6.servant.

All this role in no way diminish His Godhead status.God in 3 persons.Blessed trinity. Cheers.

TroGunn: This person summed it up, a while back:

ofcos in his hurry to quote what he doesn't understand he forget to also quote the Holy Spirit as the 3rd person in the Godhead. Maybe that one na force.SMH!

Bidam: There is nothing like second highest authority in the universe in the bible..Those are you errors and it is rather a shame that men can descend so low to paint a doctrine that it's not only unscriptural but demonic.God is one and He doesn't have second in command.As if He is going to be sick or die and the second should take over like they do in the secular world.

That being said the scripture in Hebrew you quoted in no way diminsh the authencity of Jesus as God. Like i said He played so many roles.1. High priest.2.prophet.3 Apostle. 4.teacher.5.Lamb 6.servant.

All this role in no way diminish His Godhead status.God in 3 persons.Blessed trinity. Cheers.

But clearly Christ is 2nd highest in the universe, from the Bible. After his resurrection, he was elevated and given authority above all others - of course only God who gave him authority is above him (and this makes him 2nd highest in the universe, God being the Most High):

1 Cor 15: 25-28: "For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all".

Squirm all you want, the truth stares you starkly in the face. I don't know why you like being pummelled over this Trinity issue time and again. Obviously, it's falsehood and non-alliance with the Bible disturbs you. You know you can just thrash the Trinity crap teaching and let the truth set you free.

Bidam: I did. And the context says that and not imply as you would erroneously have us believe.Jesus is Alpha and Omega.

Wrong answer. another chance. how did the context say it? You dont borrow 'poss'.

that rev. 1:8 is not talking of Jesus. the context seem to imply
that, but the words "lord God" combined together is usually used
of God alone. that is why some translation view this as alluding to
the "OT" verse. and use the divine name in that verse

Bidam: according to jw bible.

OK, meaning you have no prove against it cos you ve said nothing.

Bidam: 1. Is foolish..so what are you? Are u one or 2 dimensional

2. Is also foolish.Do you also have an infinite mind?Can you quantify God with your small brain?

3. Is also foolish..The one who advocates polythesim is you because you always say there are gods NOT GOD..you mentioned Jesus,angels and idols in the ranks of gods in you antitrinity posts all over nairaland.

Stop running. I give you another chance.

1. How did you arrive at that belief that you are a 3 dimentional being?

2. since, finite mind cant understand him, how do you know he is a trinity? Do you have an infinite mind?

3. Your words:

Infact i make bold to say here that it is the concept of the unitarian God that is illogical.

Are you advocating polytheism?

I hope you really know how to answer question. the bold will teach you something, if you are 'sharp'.

If the sit is too hot for you. I give you a lifeline: 1. call a friend 2. beg for time, 3. walk away.

This is very limpid to ruminate.

Oahray: Hehehehe.... Funny thread. Trinitarians, una funny sha. Its only Trinitarians that would say:
.
(1) A person (Jesus) can be equal to his God (John 17:20).
.
(2) The Father is greater than the Son (John 14:28), yet they are equal.
.
(3) The Father gives the Son authority, and the Son subjects himself to God (1 Cor 15:27,28), yet they are equal.
.
(4) The Father is the head of the Son (1 Cor 11:3), yet they are equal.
.
(5) The Father's will dominates that of the son (Luke 22:42), yet they are equal.
.
(6) The Father sent the Son (John 17:3), but they are equal.
.
(7) The Son cannot speak of his own originality but what the father tells him (John 7:17; 14:10), yet they are equal.
.
(8.) The Father gave the Son a revelation (Rev 1:1), yet they equal.
.
(9) The Father resurrected the Son (2 Cor 4:14), yet they are equal.
.
(10) The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative (John 5:19) but does what he beholds the Father doing, yet he is equal to the father anyway.
.
(11) The Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD and Jesus is the one He sent (John 17:3), yet they are equal.
.
(12) Jesus doesnt have the power to grant the sitting at his right or left, but his Father does (Matt 20:20-23), yet they are equal.
.
(13) Blasphemy against the Son will be forgiven but blasphemy against the holy spirit will not be forgiven (Matt 12:31,32), yet they are the same.
.
I don tire to cite instances sef... Its endless. The Bible quashes the pagan doctrine everywhere you go.
.
When people who refuse to think, have no sensible answers to the questions posed to them from the gaping holes of that pagan doctrine, they would say God is a mystery. Yet Jesus said knowledge of God and (Jesus) himself would mean life (John 17:3).
.
Trinitarians, I smh for una sha

Bidam, why fight the truth? Do you think you can win the truth?

@Bidam
You called me an atheist, i accepted and your saying am making a fool of myself. It is better to be a fool for the word of God to remain true than to be a wise man and call the will of God foolishness.

So an atheist can conquer you and
make you say things a Christian
would never say, when you said
that:
1 that the exaltation(lifting up to a
higher level) of our Lord is just a
Role which never change his status
(due to co-equality).
2 that the making of Jesus, "Lord of
the living and the dead, Acts 2:36,
Rom 14:9" by God after his death
and resurrection should be
regarded as God's foolishness. That
we should allow God to do
reasoning behind that exaltation
just because You want to maintain
your own SUPER reason, that Jesus
has been Lord and co-equal with
God from the beginning.
3 that Jesus has been sitting at the
right hand of the Father, Ps 110:1
(you did not know this was a
prophecy and that BEFORE HE WAS
CALLED TO SIT AT THE RIGHT HAND,
HE WAS NOT ACTUALLY SITTING
THERE).
Am not tempting you to say these
things but just to show you that
trinity is against the will of God.

Your errors are starring at you. Be careful this time, we are starting with colossians 2:9.

@bidam
colossians 2:9
New International Version
For in Christ all the fullness of the
Deity lives in bodily form,

New Living Translation
For in Christ lives all the fullness of
God in a human body.

King James Bible
For in him dwelleth all the fulness
of the Godhead bodily.

If you believe he has the fullness of deity in him, then you Must not say he is half Man half God unless you have scriptural proof that he is half half, if not, then you show us the pastor that taught you that.

Please tell me what you understood is the meaning of word "Godhead."

Or you might want me to start with Isa 40:3 by telling me why you quoted it?

yawns..thrash.

TroGunn:

To start with Jesus is not called "God the Son" anywhere in the Bible.

The convolution you have enveloped yourself - "NOT SEPARATE ENTITIES but distinct personalities" - is what happens in not accepting the Bible's simple clear truths.

Too many Bible verses point to Christ being a different person from the Father, God Almighty, and serving as a messenger to God - 'Father knows some things, Son doesn't. Father sent Son to die. Father raises Son from death. Father grants Son authority. Father created Son. Father sits on throne, Son sits on the right hand, Son prays to Father,etc. Are there instances where the Son plays roles that suggest superiority or even equality with Father? Why are the roles never reversed?"

Here's one for you to ponder on:

[b]Heb 5:1-10 ---- Every high priest is selected from among the people and is appointed to represent the people in matters related to God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. He is able to deal gently with those who are ignorant and are going astray, since he himself is subject to weakness. This is why he has to offer sacrifices for his own sins, as well as for the sins of the people. And no one takes this honor on himself, but he receives it when called by God, just as Aaron was. In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father.” And he says in another place, “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek. [/b]

Christ did not make himself priest - God made him one, like he made Aaron. And you know what a priest does - "represent the people in matters related to God".

Why did God make Christ priest? "...because of his reverent submission. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered .... "

And you think Christ is the same Almighty God he serves as priest for, abi?

Christ is exalted indeed, being the 2nd highest authority in the universe - the Almighty God Jehovah is the only one above and superior to Christ.

Christ gives us the perfect example of how to be obedient to God Almighty.

JMAN05:

OK, meaning you have no prove against it cos you ve said nothing.

I don't read jw bible.How can i defend what i don't read.

JMAN05:

Stop running. I give you another chance.

Who is running? Maybe i don't wanna waste time answering silly and ridiculous questions thats why.

1. How did you arrive at that belief that you are a 3 dimentional being?

This are basic teachings in secular schools. Your temple addicts no tell you? ANYWAY GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND.

2. since, finite mind cant understand him, how do you know he is a trinity? Do you have an infinite mind?

No i don't have a finite mind. The God of the Bible is invisible and cannot be seen except if He reveals Himself to us in a three-dimensional form that we can see. A being which exists in dimensions beyond our three spatial dimensions would be invisible to creatures (us) that can only exist in the confines of our universe.

But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!" (Exodus 33:20)
When He passes me I cannot see Him. When He goes by, I cannot perceive Him (Job 9:11)
The Almighty is beyond our reach (Job 37:23)
No man has seen God at any time... (John 1:18)
No man has seen the Father... (John 6:46)
And He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation. (Colossians 1:15)
Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God... (1 Timothy 1:17)

3. Your words:

Infact i make bold to say here that it is the concept of the unitarian God that is illogical.

Are you advocating polytheism?

foolish..the post clearly depict i was talking trinity.

I hope you really know how to answer question. the bold will teach you something, if you are 'sharp'.

If the sit is too hot for you. I give you a lifeline: 1. call a friend 2. beg for time, 3. walk away.

yawns..rather it gave me a headache.